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> Long Range Autumn 2017 Outlooks, Thoughts & Discussions, Is summer hanging on or will winter come early?
snowlover2
post Sep 18 2017, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(snowlover2 @ Sep 18 2017, 07:00 PM) *
There are signs of the east cooling down over the last couple of days of the month into early October once Jose and Maria move away from the U.S.

GFS is a bit slower but you can see the ridge in the west and trough in east.
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post Sep 18 2017, 07:42 PM
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I wasn't sure whether to mention this in the summer, fall, or winter thread but decided with the fall since it's time for cooler weather to take over more (hopefully). It appears we might have hit the Arctic sea ice minimum for 2017 on September 13th at 4.636 million square kilometers. Since then, the ice has gone up to 4.681 million square kms. That would be the 8th lowest minimum (unless it would fall further) since 1979. While melting was strong in the spring and start of summer, it leveled off a bit in August and the first half of September. It probably take the rest of this week with the ice area to know for sure but it's something I looked at and it has been growing again for a few days now.
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post Sep 18 2017, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(bradjl2009 @ Sep 18 2017, 08:42 PM) *
I wasn't sure whether to mention this in the summer, fall, or winter thread but decided with the fall since it's time for cooler weather to take over more (hopefully). It appears we might have hit the Arctic sea ice minimum for 2017 on September 13th at 4.636 million square kilometers. Since then, the ice has gone up to 4.681 million square kms. That would be the 8th lowest minimum (unless it would fall further) since 1979. While melting was strong in the spring and start of summer, it leveled off a bit in August and the first half of September. It probably take the rest of this week with the ice area to know for sure but it's something I looked at and it has been growing again for a few days now.


Not bad to mention it but that is why we hoisted an arctic sea ice thread as well as many other threads. Seems like many dont like talking about sea ice or atmospheric patterns. We had a little discussion going for Stratospheric anomalies but many just take advice from others on social media than try to elaborate and learn themselves. Sorry for rant but it infuriates me when we try to look at minute changes in model runs for hurricanes weeks out instead of ever talking about large scale patterns and changes that cause such things to happen oh well models will always and forever be the go to.

To add to this there has been little recovery over about the past decade with sea ice volume which is probably the biggest contender why we continually have lower extents in conjunction with warmer and wetter arctic winters not really helping but have to go to other threads to talk about stuff like this. Oh well wonder what the 00z Euro is going to say might inch slightly further east rolleyes.gif


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post Today, 06:39 AM
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little reversal in the mid term models
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post Today, 03:46 PM
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In the 90s at both O'Hare and Midway. LOT mentioning the possibility of near 90 temps through Tuesday. This after a summer of very few and far between 90s. UGH! Autumn starting off as summer-like as possible here.
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