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QUOTE(mikeyj1220 @ Sep 16 2014, 10:10 AM) *

Nothing directed towards you but towards the article. Please give me a break (directed at article). blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

The progressive shrinking of Arctic sea ice is bringing colder, snowier winters to North America, the UK and other areas of Europe as this study and some others I have read supposedly show.

As global temperatures have risen, the area of Arctic Ocean covered by ice in summer and autumn has been falling.

Whether conditions will get colder still as ice melts further is unclear as some of these studies have said.

Indeed. Let me say a few things, on the other hand, that are clear:
1. This “science” did not precede the events that it attempts to explain.
2. All mainstream climatologists predicted warmer, less snowy winters for mid latitudes, as the planet progressively warmed.
3. When your side of a debate predicts A and B happens, and then says B resulted from the same causes we were using to predict A and therefore we were right all along, people should think long and hard before accepting the word of such “scientists.”

If you don't believe me try going back 8 or more years and finding "studies" like this that show melting ice in the arctic will cause colder and snowier winters for areas of the mid latitudes. You won't find any such studies like this before 2006. Probably won't find any before 2010.

Sorry for the rant but I had to get it off my chest.

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post Today, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(paletitsnow63 @ Sep 16 2014, 11:13 AM) *
Nothing directed towards you but towards the article. Please give me a break (directed at article). blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

The progressive shrinking of Arctic sea ice is bringing colder, snowier winters to North America, the UK and other areas of Europe as this study and some others I have read supposedly show.

As global temperatures have risen, the area of Arctic Ocean covered by ice in summer and autumn has been falling.

Whether conditions will get colder still as ice melts further is unclear as some of these studies have said.

Indeed. Let me say a few things, on the other hand, that are clear:
1. This “science” did not precede the events that it attempts to explain.
2. All mainstream climatologists predicted warmer, less snowy winters for mid latitudes, as the planet progressively warmed.
3. When your side of a debate predicts A and B happens, and then says B resulted from the same causes we were using to predict A and therefore we were right all along, people should think long and hard before accepting the word of such “scientists.”

If you don't believe me try going back 8 or more years and finding "studies" like this that show melting ice in the arctic will cause colder and snowier winters for areas of the mid latitudes. You won't find any such studies like this before 2006. Probably won't find any before 2010.

Sorry for the rant but I had to get it off my chest.


Well said...
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QUOTE(paletitsnow63 @ Sep 16 2014, 11:13 AM) *
Nothing directed towards you but towards the article. Please give me a break (directed at article). blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

The progressive shrinking of Arctic sea ice is bringing colder, snowier winters to North America, the UK and other areas of Europe as this study and some others I have read supposedly show.

As global temperatures have risen, the area of Arctic Ocean covered by ice in summer and autumn has been falling.

Whether conditions will get colder still as ice melts further is unclear as some of these studies have said.

Indeed. Let me say a few things, on the other hand, that are clear:
1. This “science” did not precede the events that it attempts to explain.
2. All mainstream climatologists predicted warmer, less snowy winters for mid latitudes, as the planet progressively warmed.
3. When your side of a debate predicts A and B happens, and then says B resulted from the same causes we were using to predict A and therefore we were right all along, people should think long and hard before accepting the word of such “scientists.”

If you don't believe me try going back 8 or more years and finding "studies" like this that show melting ice in the arctic will cause colder and snowier winters for areas of the mid latitudes. You won't find any such studies like this before 2006. Probably won't find any before 2010.

Sorry for the rant but I had to get it off my chest.

Haha, seems like everyone here has their own rant about global warming/climate change. IMO, it's too early to know how global warming/climate change affects extremes. We've only been keeping records of most meteorological stuff since 1950, even less for most teleconnections. The Earth is, what, 9 billion years old (depending upon who you ask)? I can see how people can look at the extreme hots/colds we've experienced in the past 20 years and say it's "becoming more common", but 20 years isn't a very large time interval when there's 8,999,999,980 more years unaccounted for.

I love how, in the AOL video, they used the satrical winter forecast that EmpireNews.net posted. Great journalistic skills there, AOL laugh.gif

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