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snowgeek93
post Apr 10 2017, 11:05 AM
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Halfway through meteorological Spring now so might as well get this started up.

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Thornhill, Ontario Snowfall (Buttonville Airport):

2016/2017: 142.6cm (Weak La Nina)
2015/2016: 96.4cm (Strong El Nino)
2014/2015: 118.7cm (Weak El Nino)
2013/2014: 184.8cm (Neutral)
2012/2013: 151.6cm (Neutral)
2011/2012: 99.9cm (Weak La Nina)
2010/2011: 168.1cm (Moderate La Nina)
2009/2010: 71.3cm (Moderate El Nino)
2008/2009: 253cm (Weak La Nina)
2007/2008: 251.6cm (Moderate La Nina)

Average Snowfall (Buttonville Airport): 142.6cm

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post Apr 23 2017, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(snowgeek93 @ Apr 10 2017, 12:05 PM) *
Halfway through meteorological Spring now so might as well get this started up.

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A whole lot o orange there. Given the predominant mild pattern stretching back into the winter for SW Ontario, and coupled with those outlooks, it will be a scorcher around these parts.
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snowgeek93
post May 3 2017, 05:45 AM
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http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news...fornia/70001459


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Thornhill, Ontario Snowfall (Buttonville Airport):

2016/2017: 142.6cm (Weak La Nina)
2015/2016: 96.4cm (Strong El Nino)
2014/2015: 118.7cm (Weak El Nino)
2013/2014: 184.8cm (Neutral)
2012/2013: 151.6cm (Neutral)
2011/2012: 99.9cm (Weak La Nina)
2010/2011: 168.1cm (Moderate La Nina)
2009/2010: 71.3cm (Moderate El Nino)
2008/2009: 253cm (Weak La Nina)
2007/2008: 251.6cm (Moderate La Nina)

Average Snowfall (Buttonville Airport): 142.6cm

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post May 6 2017, 06:25 AM
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Brett:

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news...lybrkr=52e8df7b

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Warm, stormy summer to unfold around Great Lakes, Montreal

This summer is shaping up to bring typical warmth to much of Ontario and southern Quebec, while unbearable humidity remains at bay.

“The summer will be less humid than usual [in these areas],” Anderson said. This is due to cold fronts passing through the region on a regular basis, limiting the frequency that AccuWeather RealFeel® Temperatures reach dangerous levels.

The fronts will also bring many opportunities for thunderstorms, some of which may be severe.

“There is the potential for a few severe thunderstorm outbreaks in Ontario, especially from July into mid-August,” Anderson said.

This includes major cities such as Ottawa and Windsor, Ontario.


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Thornhill, Ontario Snowfall (Buttonville Airport):

2016/2017: 142.6cm (Weak La Nina)
2015/2016: 96.4cm (Strong El Nino)
2014/2015: 118.7cm (Weak El Nino)
2013/2014: 184.8cm (Neutral)
2012/2013: 151.6cm (Neutral)
2011/2012: 99.9cm (Weak La Nina)
2010/2011: 168.1cm (Moderate La Nina)
2009/2010: 71.3cm (Moderate El Nino)
2008/2009: 253cm (Weak La Nina)
2007/2008: 251.6cm (Moderate La Nina)

Average Snowfall (Buttonville Airport): 142.6cm

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post May 10 2017, 06:17 AM
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That kind of granularity is asking for riducule come mid August. I can see the whole cold front thing transpiring though.

Looking at Mike's blog, his write up of summer weather after May snow makes depressing reading. You could argue that if the wet and cool spring is anything to go by, then we will have the anti-summer of 2016, which although was not super hot, was dry and warm round here. Not complaining as I am working again and don't want to spend my summer watering the yard and filling the pool.

My gut feeling is that if we have a cooler and damper summer, this may set us up for a more classic winter.

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post May 10 2017, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE(Lake effect @ May 10 2017, 07:17 AM) *
That kind of granularity is asking for riducule come mid August. I can see the whole cold front thing transpiring though.

Looking at Mike's blog, his write up of summer weather after May snow makes depressing reading. You could argue that if the wet and cool spring is anything to go by, then we will have the anti-summer of 2016, which although was not super hot, was dry and warm round here. Not complaining as I am working again and don't want to spend my summer watering the yard and filling the pool.

My gut feeling is that if we have a cooler and damper summer, this may set us up for a more classic winter.



Last summer was actually one of the hottest in history here in Alliston, with 37 days days which exceeded 30C , it was beat only by 2005 (39 days) and 2002 (40 days) . So in terms of 30C days, 2016 was our 3rd hottest summer in the last 40 years.

In Toronto last summer they had 99 days over 25C which was the most ever for the city. Also, with 38 days over 30C it was their 3rd best showing ever as well.

My guess is that this summer won't live up to those numbers. I'm guessing more like 10-12 days over 30C. Expect more frequent thunderstorms, more cold fronts, and less humidity. July and August should end up near to slightly below normal for S/E Ontario.


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Alliston,ON 2016/2017 Snowfall:

October: 1.5cm
November: 7cm
December: 70cm
January: 20cm
February: 27.5cm
March: 9cm
April: 13cm
TOTAL: 148cm
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2015/2016 Total: 121cm
2014/2015 Total: 113.5cm
2013/2014 Total: 200cm
2012/2013: 140cm
2011/2012: 103cm
2010/2011: 213.5cm
2009/2010: 97cm
2008/2009: 232cm
2007/2008: 291cm
2006/2007: 84.8cm
LAST 11 YEAR AVERAGE: 158cm

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post May 10 2017, 10:14 AM
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Mike's blog?
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post May 10 2017, 11:15 AM
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I'm not buying into any cooler pattern down this way until I see some solid evidence to suggest so.
We've been above normal for a couple years now with persistent SE ridge.
2 chilly weeks in May or a snowy winter way up in Eastern Ontario isn't really relevant down here in the South.


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Winter 2016-2017

Dec 2016: 30cm
Jan 2017: 5cm
Feb 2017: 7cm
March 2017: 35cm!! Finally!

Days with snow on the ground: 25
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post May 10 2017, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(MrMusic @ May 10 2017, 12:15 PM) *
I'm not buying into any cooler pattern down this way until I see some solid evidence to suggest so.
We've been above normal for a couple years now with persistent SE ridge.
2 chilly weeks in May or a snowy winter way up in Eastern Ontario isn't really relevant down here in the South.



That is true, Eastern Ontario has proven to be in their own weather zone for much of the winter and now spring. Southern Ontario has remained above normal through most of the winter and spring months. May unfortunately looks to come in a couple degrees below normal everywhere but lets hope for a June recovery.


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Alliston,ON 2016/2017 Snowfall:

October: 1.5cm
November: 7cm
December: 70cm
January: 20cm
February: 27.5cm
March: 9cm
April: 13cm
TOTAL: 148cm
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2015/2016 Total: 121cm
2014/2015 Total: 113.5cm
2013/2014 Total: 200cm
2012/2013: 140cm
2011/2012: 103cm
2010/2011: 213.5cm
2009/2010: 97cm
2008/2009: 232cm
2007/2008: 291cm
2006/2007: 84.8cm
LAST 11 YEAR AVERAGE: 158cm

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post May 10 2017, 01:28 PM
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The thing that sticks out to me from last summer that I loved was how sunny and dry it was. Practically every day we had sunshine here with rain a virtual no-show. It was almost desert-like by the end of August. The heat got a bit much at times I will admit but that constant sunshine will be hard to beat this year.


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Thornhill, Ontario Snowfall (Buttonville Airport):

2016/2017: 142.6cm (Weak La Nina)
2015/2016: 96.4cm (Strong El Nino)
2014/2015: 118.7cm (Weak El Nino)
2013/2014: 184.8cm (Neutral)
2012/2013: 151.6cm (Neutral)
2011/2012: 99.9cm (Weak La Nina)
2010/2011: 168.1cm (Moderate La Nina)
2009/2010: 71.3cm (Moderate El Nino)
2008/2009: 253cm (Weak La Nina)
2007/2008: 251.6cm (Moderate La Nina)

Average Snowfall (Buttonville Airport): 142.6cm

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post May 10 2017, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(Andros @ May 10 2017, 10:14 AM) *
Mike's blog?


All the good stuff without the likes of me whining! Not sure of the link as on a different device.
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snowgeek93
post May 10 2017, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(Andros @ May 10 2017, 11:14 AM) *
Mike's blog?

It's JJ's blog and he has a lot of knowledgeable contributors from this forum providing plenty of weather info for free!


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Thornhill, Ontario Snowfall (Buttonville Airport):

2016/2017: 142.6cm (Weak La Nina)
2015/2016: 96.4cm (Strong El Nino)
2014/2015: 118.7cm (Weak El Nino)
2013/2014: 184.8cm (Neutral)
2012/2013: 151.6cm (Neutral)
2011/2012: 99.9cm (Weak La Nina)
2010/2011: 168.1cm (Moderate La Nina)
2009/2010: 71.3cm (Moderate El Nino)
2008/2009: 253cm (Weak La Nina)
2007/2008: 251.6cm (Moderate La Nina)

Average Snowfall (Buttonville Airport): 142.6cm

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post May 10 2017, 09:05 PM
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As long as they stay here as well. I like the blog format, but like being able to chat about the weather and follow storms here too.
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post May 10 2017, 09:12 PM
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I was looking at the story of the Cornwall dam and the lake Ontario iflooding ssues and the fact they can't let the water thru because of concern of flooding even more over here.

In the english media they speak about it but on french it's a non existant issue so what i would like to know is if any of you has any news on what's going with the lake Ontario water level and if you have any news about important water discharge that will happen with the dam.

Thanks
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post May 10 2017, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(Stl @ May 10 2017, 10:12 PM) *
I was looking at the story of the Cornwall dam and the lake Ontario iflooding ssues and the fact they can't let the water thru because of concern of flooding even more over here.

In the english media they speak about it but on french it's a non existant issue so what i would like to know is if any of you has any news on what's going with the lake Ontario water level and if you have any news about important water discharge that will happen with the dam.

Thanks


The last I heard a couple days ago was that Lake Ontario just barely surpassed it's all-time highest level. Previous record was 1973.
Lots of shoreline erosion here. Many homes threatened, and due to the nature of most cities having large parks and path networks along the lakeshore, many of those areas are closed with pathways washed out and erosion taking place. Here in Hamilton some very busy trails are closed indefinitely under the water level recedes.

If I'm understanding you correctly, they are keeping as much water in the lake to avoid it heading down the St Lawrence into your area?? That makes sense to me with all your huge flooding problems there from local rivers/canals. I think they were probably at a critical point this week where any further large rainstorm could have been devastating around the entire lakeshore. Thankfully it's been sunny here since Sunday with no big rains in the forecast. Had another storm come through, they would have probably been forced to allow some water through in order to prevent massive flooding around the entire perimeter of the lake.
Hopefully the water recedes up there quickly. Pretty sad to see what's happening.


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Winter 2016-2017

Dec 2016: 30cm
Jan 2017: 5cm
Feb 2017: 7cm
March 2017: 35cm!! Finally!

Days with snow on the ground: 25
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post May 10 2017, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(MrMusic @ May 11 2017, 12:02 AM) *
The last I heard a couple days ago was that Lake Ontario just barely surpassed it's all-time highest level. Previous record was 1973.
Lots of shoreline erosion here. Many homes threatened, and due to the nature of most cities having large parks and path networks along the lakeshore, many of those areas are closed with pathways washed out and erosion taking place. Here in Hamilton some very busy trails are closed indefinitely under the water level recedes.

If I'm understanding you correctly, they are keeping as much water in the lake to avoid it heading down the St Lawrence into your area?? That makes sense to me with all your huge flooding problems there from local rivers/canals. I think they were probably at a critical point this week where any further large rainstorm could have been devastating around the entire lakeshore. Thankfully it's been sunny here since Sunday with no big rains in the forecast. Had another storm come through, they would have probably been forced to allow some water through in order to prevent massive flooding around the entire perimeter of the lake.
Hopefully the water recedes up there quickly. Pretty sad to see what's happening.


Thanks MrMusic , yes that's what they are doing , i know though that they did release some water yesterday but from today i didn't see any news.

Ottawa,Gatineau and the North Shore of Montreal will be improving but with the rain of this weekend it should remain stable although if they open the Cornwall dam then it means they expect the water level from that region to go down as the only thing they are waiting for is that the Ottawa river level go down so the North Western part of the Montreal Island doesn't get flooded even more with the combination from both side.

Resident near the Saint-Lawrence in towns like Beaconsfield and Pointe-Claire who haven't had any flooding issues up to now are getting anxious with this dam opening has they are certain they will get flooded now.

I just saw this so with the rain combined it will certainly affect everyone near the Saint-Lawrence up to the Gaspe peninsula : http://www.thesuburban.com/blogs/suburban_...c9d1aa07c2.html

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post Jun 1 2017, 03:48 PM
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First official day of meteorological summer today and quite pleasant here at 17C.


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Thornhill, Ontario Snowfall (Buttonville Airport):

2016/2017: 142.6cm (Weak La Nina)
2015/2016: 96.4cm (Strong El Nino)
2014/2015: 118.7cm (Weak El Nino)
2013/2014: 184.8cm (Neutral)
2012/2013: 151.6cm (Neutral)
2011/2012: 99.9cm (Weak La Nina)
2010/2011: 168.1cm (Moderate La Nina)
2009/2010: 71.3cm (Moderate El Nino)
2008/2009: 253cm (Weak La Nina)
2007/2008: 251.6cm (Moderate La Nina)

Average Snowfall (Buttonville Airport): 142.6cm

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post Jun 2 2017, 05:48 AM
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Love this time of year! cool.gif

Absolutely gorgeous morning here with crystal clear skies and temp at 10C. Days are so long now as well with daylight before 5am extending all the way past 9:30pm smile.gif


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Thornhill, Ontario Snowfall (Buttonville Airport):

2016/2017: 142.6cm (Weak La Nina)
2015/2016: 96.4cm (Strong El Nino)
2014/2015: 118.7cm (Weak El Nino)
2013/2014: 184.8cm (Neutral)
2012/2013: 151.6cm (Neutral)
2011/2012: 99.9cm (Weak La Nina)
2010/2011: 168.1cm (Moderate La Nina)
2009/2010: 71.3cm (Moderate El Nino)
2008/2009: 253cm (Weak La Nina)
2007/2008: 251.6cm (Moderate La Nina)

Average Snowfall (Buttonville Airport): 142.6cm

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post Jun 3 2017, 06:43 AM
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It is not spring, it's June, it's summer smile.gif

Mike has been pointing out the Euros are showing a favourable change in the East. Certainly after Tuesday things look set to improve a bit, but the real change comes around the 12th. The GEFS are in agreement. Hopefully this will truly signal the end of the cold damp weather. Don't mind cold incursions with storms on the leading edge every now and then, but don't want it to be like that most of time:

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post Jun 3 2017, 03:58 PM
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The string of gorgeous days keeps rolling on. Today is the best yet. Again not a cloud, light winds and 27 IMBY in the shade. Looks like 24-25 is the high on the harbour shore station. Incredible.
Tomorrow looks muggy with storm chances. Couple crappy days mid-next week then all indications are.....summer


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Winter 2016-2017

Dec 2016: 30cm
Jan 2017: 5cm
Feb 2017: 7cm
March 2017: 35cm!! Finally!

Days with snow on the ground: 25
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