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EOsnowmom
post Aug 12 2017, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(SNOWBOB11 @ Aug 12 2017, 06:53 PM) *
Not sure if this helps any. It's a list from 1980-2009. Scroll down to tornados.


Kinda helps...thanks for the links.

I found this table someone compiled here: http://www.ontariostorms.com/showthread.php?t=469

I'd still like to see exact numbers and dates from EC. The search continues!
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post Aug 12 2017, 09:45 PM
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I honestly think we are cursed. Now models showing this week to remain cooler, a few days ago it was a nice 5 day stretch of 80-85F weather, now its 70-75F with a plunge into the 50F's on Thursday as a massive rainstorm moves in. Friday through weekend remain unstable with showers and temps near 70F. Unreal. I'm done with this summer, as far as Im concerned lets just try again next year. We have yet to have a solid 7 day stretch of weather this entire summer here, it rains 5/7 days (even if its a brief passing shower) and it's just getting annoying.

Where is the 5 day stretch of 30C+ weather with 40C humidex? Where you walk outside and go WOW, thats SO HOT. I haven't seen one of those days yet. It's not a rarity, looking back into weather history over the past 50 years they are very common in Southern Ontario, usually occurring in 8/10 summers. I really hope next year is better.

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Barrie ,ON 2017/2018 Snowfall:
Alliston in ( )
October: 2cm (0cm)
November: 30cm (13cm)
December: 26cm (17cm)


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Alliston history
2016/2017: 148cm
2015/2016 Total: 121cm
2014/2015 Total: 113.5cm
2013/2014 Total: 200cm
2012/2013: 140cm
2011/2012: 103cm
2010/2011: 213.5cm
2009/2010: 97cm
2008/2009: 232cm
2007/2008: 291cm
2006/2007: 84.8cm
LAST 11 YEAR AVERAGE: 158cm

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post Aug 13 2017, 09:51 AM
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It did rain here overnight, but it was very little.
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post Aug 13 2017, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(EOsnowmom @ Aug 12 2017, 09:14 PM) *
Kinda helps...thanks for the links.

I found this table someone compiled here: http://www.ontariostorms.com/showthread.php?t=469

I'd still like to see exact numbers and dates from EC. The search continues!


You got me kind of curious so I did some more looking and I think this list from wikipedia is what you are looking for. It has the dates, strength and where they touched down. This list goes to 2000 but at the bottom of the page you can click on a list for 2000-present.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canad...rnado_outbreaks

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post Aug 13 2017, 03:23 PM
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Partly cloudy and 25C this afternoon. Not a bad stretch of weather lately.

Starting to worry now about winter as well (I know, only August) with talk of a ENSO Neutral season likely in store for us.


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Buttonville Airport 2017/2018 Snowfall: 19.2cm

First Flakes: Nov 9th/10th
First Snowfall: Nov 9th/10th (2cm)
Biggest Snowfall: Dec 11th/12th (15.8cm)
Days with Snow on Ground: 8
Days with Snow Cover: 3

November 2017: 2.8cm (12.1cm)
December 2017: 16.4cm (34.2cm)

Average Snowfall (Buttonville Airport): 142.6cm
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post Aug 13 2017, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(travis3000 @ Aug 12 2017, 10:45 PM) *
I honestly think we are cursed. Now models showing this week to remain cooler, a few days ago it was a nice 5 day stretch of 80-85F weather, now its 70-75F with a plunge into the 50F's on Thursday as a massive rainstorm moves in. Friday through weekend remain unstable with showers and temps near 70F. Unreal. I'm done with this summer, as far as Im concerned lets just try again next year. We have yet to have a solid 7 day stretch of weather this entire summer here, it rains 5/7 days (even if its a brief passing shower) and it's just getting annoying.

Where is the 5 day stretch of 30C+ weather with 40C humidex? Where you walk outside and go WOW, thats SO HOT. I haven't seen one of those days yet. It's not a rarity, looking back into weather history over the past 50 years they are very common in Southern Ontario, usually occurring in 8/10 summers. I really hope next year is better.

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I think 2009 and 2014 were worse Summer's than this one but it's a vast difference from last year. I feel for you being a heat lover and all.

Personally I think June was definitely the best month of this season IMO. Lots of sunshine and comfortable temps even with cloudy/rainy days mixed in. July was way to overcast/wet for my liking and August has been decent although by this point Summer is dwindling rapidly.


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Buttonville Airport 2017/2018 Snowfall: 19.2cm

First Flakes: Nov 9th/10th
First Snowfall: Nov 9th/10th (2cm)
Biggest Snowfall: Dec 11th/12th (15.8cm)
Days with Snow on Ground: 8
Days with Snow Cover: 3

November 2017: 2.8cm (12.1cm)
December 2017: 16.4cm (34.2cm)

Average Snowfall (Buttonville Airport): 142.6cm
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post Aug 13 2017, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(snowgeek93 @ Aug 13 2017, 05:53 PM) *
Partly cloudy and 25C this afternoon. Not a bad stretch of weather lately.

Starting to worry now about winter as well (I know, only August) with talk of a ENSO Neutral season likely in store for us.


Can't be as bad as all the El Nino talk earlier in the year, still an outside chance of La Nina developing for DJF, but least El Nino looks dead and buried this winter!
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post Aug 13 2017, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(snowgeek93 @ Aug 13 2017, 04:28 PM) *
I think 2009 and 2014 were worse Summer's than this one but it's a vast difference from last year. I feel for you being a heat lover and all.

Personally I think June was definitely the best month of this season IMO. Lots of sunshine and comfortable temps even with cloudy/rainy days mixed in. July was way to overcast/wet for my liking and August has been decent although by this point Summer is dwindling rapidly.


A shame to hear how it's been up there this summer. Been a fantastic summer down this way.
Next couple weeks looks to continue the trend. Hopefully the sun and warmth spreads up that way for the next month for you guys.


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Winter 2017-2018

December 12, 2017: 10cm - Welcome back winter!!




Winter 2016-2017

Dec 2016: 30cm
Jan 2017: 5cm
Feb 2017: 7cm
March 2017: 35cm!! Finally!

Days with snow on the ground: 25
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post Aug 13 2017, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(travis3000 @ Aug 12 2017, 05:09 PM) *
We had a weather station right in downtown Alliston for over 30 years, it unfortunately retired in 2008 and all data then switched to CFB Borden (12km north of the town). There were a few years when they both ran data and the temps were fairly similar. They both are similar elevations, similar sandy soil, proximity below the escarpment, and enough inland. The only difference is the CFB Borden station is closer to Georgian Bay so on those days with a cool NW breeze, the Borden area is routinely 1-2C cooler then Alliston, as its further south and protected slightly from the NW breeze of the bay. I've lived in the area my entire life. But I can say if the winds are from the W, SW, S, SE, or E then the temps at Borden are routinely bang on to Alliston. A N or NW wind usually means the actual temp in Alliston is 1-2C warmer then what you see at Borden.


Interesting. Yea, the differences here from the urban city to where our EC stations are is remarkable. At least the Cootes Paradise one is closer to the lake and city, but if you know Cootes north shore you know it's pure forest, conservation land. All nature. No urban area anywhere, and being on the north shore of the water means the S or SW wind that we get most of the time blows across the water.
It's almost always 2-3 degrees warmer in the city than at YHM all year round. YHM is certainly useful for folks in Brantford and Caledonia, but not lower Hamilton.


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Winter 2017-2018

December 12, 2017: 10cm - Welcome back winter!!




Winter 2016-2017

Dec 2016: 30cm
Jan 2017: 5cm
Feb 2017: 7cm
March 2017: 35cm!! Finally!

Days with snow on the ground: 25
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post Aug 14 2017, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(MrMusic @ Aug 13 2017, 10:14 PM) *
Interesting. Yea, the differences here from the urban city to where our EC stations are is remarkable. At least the Cootes Paradise one is closer to the lake and city, but if you know Cootes north shore you know it's pure forest, conservation land. All nature. No urban area anywhere, and being on the north shore of the water means the S or SW wind that we get most of the time blows across the water.
It's almost always 2-3 degrees warmer in the city than at YHM all year round. YHM is certainly useful for folks in Brantford and Caledonia, but not lower Hamilton.



Elevation, proximity to water make a difference in temperatures 100%. Yesterday was a prime example where it was 25C in Borden, but Alliston hit 27C. The NW breeze all day kept Borden a tad cooler.


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Barrie ,ON 2017/2018 Snowfall:
Alliston in ( )
October: 2cm (0cm)
November: 30cm (13cm)
December: 26cm (17cm)


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Alliston history
2016/2017: 148cm
2015/2016 Total: 121cm
2014/2015 Total: 113.5cm
2013/2014 Total: 200cm
2012/2013: 140cm
2011/2012: 103cm
2010/2011: 213.5cm
2009/2010: 97cm
2008/2009: 232cm
2007/2008: 291cm
2006/2007: 84.8cm
LAST 11 YEAR AVERAGE: 158cm

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travis3000
post Aug 14 2017, 03:04 PM
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Hit 27C again today with a mix of sun and cloud. Not a bad day.


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Barrie ,ON 2017/2018 Snowfall:
Alliston in ( )
October: 2cm (0cm)
November: 30cm (13cm)
December: 26cm (17cm)


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Alliston history
2016/2017: 148cm
2015/2016 Total: 121cm
2014/2015 Total: 113.5cm
2013/2014 Total: 200cm
2012/2013: 140cm
2011/2012: 103cm
2010/2011: 213.5cm
2009/2010: 97cm
2008/2009: 232cm
2007/2008: 291cm
2006/2007: 84.8cm
LAST 11 YEAR AVERAGE: 158cm

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post Aug 14 2017, 08:54 PM
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Another pleasant summer day here with sunshine and temp in the mid-20's.



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Buttonville Airport 2017/2018 Snowfall: 19.2cm

First Flakes: Nov 9th/10th
First Snowfall: Nov 9th/10th (2cm)
Biggest Snowfall: Dec 11th/12th (15.8cm)
Days with Snow on Ground: 8
Days with Snow Cover: 3

November 2017: 2.8cm (12.1cm)
December 2017: 16.4cm (34.2cm)

Average Snowfall (Buttonville Airport): 142.6cm
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post Aug 15 2017, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(MrMusic @ Aug 13 2017, 09:14 PM) *
Interesting. Yea, the differences here from the urban city to where our EC stations are is remarkable. At least the Cootes Paradise one is closer to the lake and city, but if you know Cootes north shore you know it's pure forest, conservation land. All nature. No urban area anywhere, and being on the north shore of the water means the S or SW wind that we get most of the time blows across the water.
It's almost always 2-3 degrees warmer in the city than at YHM all year round. YHM is certainly useful for folks in Brantford and Caledonia, but not lower Hamilton.

I live on the mountain and EC forecast for YHM is pretty accurate for the daytime highs. Forecast lows are a little cooler, especially in the summer. I use the Weather Network for when I am in the lower city, which is often.
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post Aug 15 2017, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(NortheastWind @ Aug 15 2017, 09:51 AM) *
I live on the mountain and EC forecast for YHM is pretty accurate for the daytime highs. Forecast lows are a little cooler, especially in the summer. I use the Weather Network for when I am in the lower city, which is often.


Yea that's what I do. Use YHM for the Mountain and TWN for the lower city. Interestingly, TWN uses the RBG EC station for Hamilton.
I use that RBG station for historic data too.


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Winter 2017-2018

December 12, 2017: 10cm - Welcome back winter!!




Winter 2016-2017

Dec 2016: 30cm
Jan 2017: 5cm
Feb 2017: 7cm
March 2017: 35cm!! Finally!

Days with snow on the ground: 25
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post Aug 15 2017, 05:53 PM
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Warm evening tonight at 25C feeling like 31C. Also, wonderful to see darkness back at 9pm... dry.gif

At least that means snow is coming back, only three more months or so before we start to have that possibility again.


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Buttonville Airport 2017/2018 Snowfall: 19.2cm

First Flakes: Nov 9th/10th
First Snowfall: Nov 9th/10th (2cm)
Biggest Snowfall: Dec 11th/12th (15.8cm)
Days with Snow on Ground: 8
Days with Snow Cover: 3

November 2017: 2.8cm (12.1cm)
December 2017: 16.4cm (34.2cm)

Average Snowfall (Buttonville Airport): 142.6cm
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post Aug 15 2017, 08:50 PM
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Another stunner here today. Lots of sun, 28 degrees, humid and nice breeze. This has been one heck of a nice long run of weather.


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Winter 2017-2018

December 12, 2017: 10cm - Welcome back winter!!




Winter 2016-2017

Dec 2016: 30cm
Jan 2017: 5cm
Feb 2017: 7cm
March 2017: 35cm!! Finally!

Days with snow on the ground: 25
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post Aug 16 2017, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(travis3000 @ Aug 12 2017, 10:45 PM) *
I honestly think we are cursed. Now models showing this week to remain cooler, a few days ago it was a nice 5 day stretch of 80-85F weather, now its 70-75F with a plunge into the 50F's on Thursday as a massive rainstorm moves in. Friday through weekend remain unstable with showers and temps near 70F. Unreal. I'm done with this summer, as far as Im concerned lets just try again next year. We have yet to have a solid 7 day stretch of weather this entire summer here, it rains 5/7 days (even if its a brief passing shower) and it's just getting annoying.

Where is the 5 day stretch of 30C+ weather with 40C humidex? Where you walk outside and go WOW, thats SO HOT. I haven't seen one of those days yet. It's not a rarity, looking back into weather history over the past 50 years they are very common in Southern Ontario, usually occurring in 8/10 summers. I really hope next year is better.

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You need to be here in London Travis if sunshine is what you're missing this summer. While the temps for my tastes have been perfect this year, precip-wise we are crazy dry here and have been since beginning of July. You can see the signs of stress on the trees and other plants around here. Some leaves have turned yellow, others dried up and dropped. Convective precip has really been missing us. Hopefully we there is some legitimate system rain on the way soon.

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post Aug 16 2017, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(Bsim71 @ Aug 16 2017, 06:03 PM) *
You need to be here in London Travis if sunshine is what you're missing this summer. While the temps for my tastes have been perfect this year, precip-wise we are crazy dry here and have been since beginning of July. You can see the signs of stress on the trees and other plants around here. Some leaves have turned yellow, others dried up and dropped. Convective precip has really been missing us. Hopefully we there is some legitimate system rain on the way soon.


Not the case here, we consistently receive rain about 4/7 days of the week ever since June. Don't get me wrong, those 4 days aren't washouts and in fact have their fair share of sun. But rain seems to always be on the horizon.


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Barrie ,ON 2017/2018 Snowfall:
Alliston in ( )
October: 2cm (0cm)
November: 30cm (13cm)
December: 26cm (17cm)


--
Alliston history
2016/2017: 148cm
2015/2016 Total: 121cm
2014/2015 Total: 113.5cm
2013/2014 Total: 200cm
2012/2013: 140cm
2011/2012: 103cm
2010/2011: 213.5cm
2009/2010: 97cm
2008/2009: 232cm
2007/2008: 291cm
2006/2007: 84.8cm
LAST 11 YEAR AVERAGE: 158cm

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post Aug 16 2017, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(Bsim71 @ Aug 16 2017, 06:03 PM) *
You need to be here in London Travis if sunshine is what you're missing this summer. While the temps for my tastes have been perfect this year, precip-wise we are crazy dry here and have been since beginning of July. You can see the signs of stress on the trees and other plants around here. Some leaves have turned yellow, others dried up and dropped. Convective precip has really been missing us. Hopefully we there is some legitimate system rain on the way soon.


Yea, been like that in Downtown Hamilton as well. I've received 20mm in the last month and only around 80-85mm since the start of July. And roughy half of that came in one week early/mid July.
I'd love to see the sunshine hours this summer. Everyday is like the movie Groundhog Day. Lol I noticed lawns starting to go brown here last week, but we've been getting some heavy dews in the morning and I know that will increase in September, so I think we're in the clear as far as that goes. I have seen some trees stressed out as you mention. It was windy a few days ago and all kinds of dead leaves were blowing around.

Looking like a hot/humid stretch of weather on the way for the weekend and first half of next week.

Travis, has this week been good up there?? Been basically wall to wall sun here again, like last week.


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Winter 2017-2018

December 12, 2017: 10cm - Welcome back winter!!




Winter 2016-2017

Dec 2016: 30cm
Jan 2017: 5cm
Feb 2017: 7cm
March 2017: 35cm!! Finally!

Days with snow on the ground: 25
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post Aug 17 2017, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(MrMusic @ Aug 16 2017, 10:40 PM) *
Yea, been like that in Downtown Hamilton as well. I've received 20mm in the last month and only around 80-85mm since the start of July. And roughy half of that came in one week early/mid July.
I'd love to see the sunshine hours this summer. Everyday is like the movie Groundhog Day. Lol I noticed lawns starting to go brown here last week, but we've been getting some heavy dews in the morning and I know that will increase in September, so I think we're in the clear as far as that goes. I have seen some trees stressed out as you mention. It was windy a few days ago and all kinds of dead leaves were blowing around.

Looking like a hot/humid stretch of weather on the way for the weekend and first half of next week.

Travis, has this week been good up there?? Been basically wall to wall sun here again, like last week.



This past week has been decent here, not a blockbuster by any means. We haven't hit 30C once so Im not that happy. We've had partly sunny days, temps usually around 25-27C. So seasonal. Its been okay. One or two showers thrown in the mix but no washouts.


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Barrie ,ON 2017/2018 Snowfall:
Alliston in ( )
October: 2cm (0cm)
November: 30cm (13cm)
December: 26cm (17cm)


--
Alliston history
2016/2017: 148cm
2015/2016 Total: 121cm
2014/2015 Total: 113.5cm
2013/2014 Total: 200cm
2012/2013: 140cm
2011/2012: 103cm
2010/2011: 213.5cm
2009/2010: 97cm
2008/2009: 232cm
2007/2008: 291cm
2006/2007: 84.8cm
LAST 11 YEAR AVERAGE: 158cm

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