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travis3000
post Aug 26 2017, 03:40 PM
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A great example of this desert effect:

In 1996, Toronto recorded ONE day which reached 30C. In Alliston our EC weather station recorded 12. That's a big difference. Considering we are about 80KM NW of the GTA, there would have to be some sort of micro climate conditions affecting temperatures given that a small area with no urban heat effect could trounce a big city like TO. The answer lies within soil type, protection from the escarpment, and proximity to water.


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Alliston,ON 2016/2017 Snowfall:

October: 1.5cm
November: 7cm
December: 70cm
January: 20cm
February: 27.5cm
March: 9cm
April: 13cm
TOTAL: 148cm
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2015/2016 Total: 121cm
2014/2015 Total: 113.5cm
2013/2014 Total: 200cm
2012/2013: 140cm
2011/2012: 103cm
2010/2011: 213.5cm
2009/2010: 97cm
2008/2009: 232cm
2007/2008: 291cm
2006/2007: 84.8cm
LAST 11 YEAR AVERAGE: 158cm

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post Aug 27 2017, 02:53 PM
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Beautiful day once again.
I'm currently sitting at 15 days hitting 30 this year and 61 days at 25 or higher.
We'll have plenty more 25s to add in, but 30s become tough to come by once Sept hits.
15 might very well be where I end this summer, which is a-ok in my books.

I wonder if this steady decrease in rainfall since the spring will continue into fall/winter?
Man, I'd love that April/May storm track to reboot in Jan-Feb!




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Winter 2016-2017

Dec 2016: 30cm
Jan 2017: 5cm
Feb 2017: 7cm
March 2017: 35cm!! Finally!

Days with snow on the ground: 25
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post Aug 27 2017, 04:39 PM
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The updated weather forecast for GTA doesn't look good warm wise from TWN and weather.com
Other then a possible 24-25 on Wednesday. Most of the temps still show low 20's.
The European forcast has +26 for Toronto next Sunday.
Hopefully we get some warmer weather next week.

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travis3000
post Aug 28 2017, 05:13 PM
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Our high has been 23c for the past 3 days in a row. Meanwhile AB is under heat warnings with 2-3 30C+ days on tap. Tomorrow will be the 50th day over 25C in Calgary, a number not recorded in decades.

This could end up being one of the hottest summers on record in places like Calgary, at least in terms of # of 30C days and 25C days recorded.

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Alliston,ON 2016/2017 Snowfall:

October: 1.5cm
November: 7cm
December: 70cm
January: 20cm
February: 27.5cm
March: 9cm
April: 13cm
TOTAL: 148cm
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2015/2016 Total: 121cm
2014/2015 Total: 113.5cm
2013/2014 Total: 200cm
2012/2013: 140cm
2011/2012: 103cm
2010/2011: 213.5cm
2009/2010: 97cm
2008/2009: 232cm
2007/2008: 291cm
2006/2007: 84.8cm
LAST 11 YEAR AVERAGE: 158cm

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post Aug 28 2017, 10:22 PM
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Looking at the current radar (11:19pm), it almost looks as if those storms coming across at Windsor are tentacles from Hurricane Harvey. Could this be right or is this something different?
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post Aug 29 2017, 09:20 AM
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I'm not sure how warm a welcome this is to autumn mellow.gif I'm not ready for 30s yet!
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travis3000
post Aug 29 2017, 11:45 AM
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Ontario and Quebec have been cursed this entire summer season, the hot air has refused to set up anywhere near us. We have been victims of trough after trough, low pressure systems, all yielding below normal temps. September looking no different based on recent run of EURO weeklies. Lots of blue in the east, and BC/Alberta stay warm the entire month.


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Alliston,ON 2016/2017 Snowfall:

October: 1.5cm
November: 7cm
December: 70cm
January: 20cm
February: 27.5cm
March: 9cm
April: 13cm
TOTAL: 148cm
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2015/2016 Total: 121cm
2014/2015 Total: 113.5cm
2013/2014 Total: 200cm
2012/2013: 140cm
2011/2012: 103cm
2010/2011: 213.5cm
2009/2010: 97cm
2008/2009: 232cm
2007/2008: 291cm
2006/2007: 84.8cm
LAST 11 YEAR AVERAGE: 158cm

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post Aug 29 2017, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(travis3000 @ Aug 28 2017, 06:13 PM) *
Our high has been 23c for the past 3 days in a row. Meanwhile AB is under heat warnings with 2-3 30C+ days on tap. Tomorrow will be the 50th day over 25C in Calgary, a number not recorded in decades.

This could end up being one of the hottest summers on record in places like Calgary, at least in terms of # of 30C days and 25C days recorded.



Intersting to see Calgary's stats this year...I knew it was a colder climate than here, but had no idea that 50 days over 25 is so rare there. Here, only hitting 50 days over 25 would be awful.

We probably need to keep in mind that daily norms have dropped quite a bit. Mine is now 23.
But yes, this Sept won't be like the last 2 with gobs of heat...looks more fall-like. Now if we can just land a storm or two.


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Winter 2016-2017

Dec 2016: 30cm
Jan 2017: 5cm
Feb 2017: 7cm
March 2017: 35cm!! Finally!

Days with snow on the ground: 25
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post Aug 29 2017, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(travis3000 @ Aug 29 2017, 11:45 AM) *
Ontario and Quebec have been cursed this entire summer season, the hot air has refused to set up anywhere near us. We have been victims of trough after trough, low pressure systems, all yielding below normal temps. September looking no different based on recent run of EURO weeklies. Lots of blue in the east, and BC/Alberta stay warm the entire month.


The warm and dry weather will arrive in December! Actually, I am hopeful for this winter, we are due something special.

Anyway, you think you've had it bad...Barrie has only had ONE day, way back on June 12th, when the mercury hit 30.0, all summer! Last year by this point we'd had 19 days 30 or above. It's actually been rather pleasant this year in my view, more like a New Zealand summer. Temps have been around 23-26 mark most of the summer. The rain has kept the lawns green. The pool is freezing though, never got above 24, usually see 27 for a few weeks.

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post Aug 29 2017, 06:34 PM
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This summer hasn't been too bad around here. It's not nearly as sunny or hot as last year but there's still been plenty of sunshine throughout the season. Not a big fan of the heat so haven't been missing that at all.

I still think June was the best month in terms of weather here with August following behind. July was a let down to be honest.


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Thornhill, Ontario Snowfall (Buttonville Airport):

2016/2017: 142.6cm (Weak La Nina)
2015/2016: 96.4cm (Strong El Nino)
2014/2015: 118.7cm (Weak El Nino)
2013/2014: 184.8cm (Neutral)
2012/2013: 151.6cm (Neutral)
2011/2012: 99.9cm (Weak La Nina)
2010/2011: 168.1cm (Moderate La Nina)
2009/2010: 71.3cm (Moderate El Nino)
2008/2009: 253cm (Weak La Nina)
2007/2008: 251.6cm (Moderate La Nina)

Average Snowfall (Buttonville Airport): 142.6cm

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post Aug 29 2017, 06:45 PM
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This Ontarian has throughly enjoyed this summer...other than the excessive rainfall, my basement is still trying to dry out. Yes, I missed the swimming weather, the pool has been woefully underused, but seeing that the trade-off was a lot of humid-free days I really don't mind.

Overall, no complaints here!
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post Aug 29 2017, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(MrMusic @ Aug 29 2017, 01:22 PM) *
Intersting to see Calgary's stats this year...I knew it was a colder climate than here, but had no idea that 50 days over 25 is so rare there. Here, only hitting 50 days over 25 would be awful.

We probably need to keep in mind that daily norms have dropped quite a bit. Mine is now 23.
But yes, this Sept won't be like the last 2 with gobs of heat...looks more fall-like. Now if we can just land a storm or two.



Yes I was shocked too. Calgary has actually never had a year with over 50 days above 25C , at least not since 1995. That's as far back as care to look for now. Manual data collection takes time. Who knows how far I would have to go back. Who knows how much higher it will go, 57-60 wouldn't surprise me which would certainly be an all time 120+ year record.


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Alliston,ON 2016/2017 Snowfall:

October: 1.5cm
November: 7cm
December: 70cm
January: 20cm
February: 27.5cm
March: 9cm
April: 13cm
TOTAL: 148cm
--
2015/2016 Total: 121cm
2014/2015 Total: 113.5cm
2013/2014 Total: 200cm
2012/2013: 140cm
2011/2012: 103cm
2010/2011: 213.5cm
2009/2010: 97cm
2008/2009: 232cm
2007/2008: 291cm
2006/2007: 84.8cm
LAST 11 YEAR AVERAGE: 158cm

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travis3000
post Aug 29 2017, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(Lake effect @ Aug 29 2017, 05:07 PM) *
The warm and dry weather will arrive in December! Actually, I am hopeful for this winter, we are due something special.

Anyway, you think you've had it bad...Barrie has only had ONE day, way back on June 12th, when the mercury hit 30.0, all summer! Last year by this point we'd had 19 days 30 or above. It's actually been rather pleasant this year in my view, more like a New Zealand summer. Temps have been around 23-26 mark most of the summer. The rain has kept the lawns green. The pool is freezing though, never got above 24, usually see 27 for a few weeks.



That's depressing, Alliston has recorded 10 days over 30.0C so far this year, but given our yearly normal is 22 days, that's not that great. Barrie's average is 10 days.

My moms pool has been at 30C all summer, but with the help of a solar blanket and a heater. Without that who knows how cold it would be.

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Alliston,ON 2016/2017 Snowfall:

October: 1.5cm
November: 7cm
December: 70cm
January: 20cm
February: 27.5cm
March: 9cm
April: 13cm
TOTAL: 148cm
--
2015/2016 Total: 121cm
2014/2015 Total: 113.5cm
2013/2014 Total: 200cm
2012/2013: 140cm
2011/2012: 103cm
2010/2011: 213.5cm
2009/2010: 97cm
2008/2009: 232cm
2007/2008: 291cm
2006/2007: 84.8cm
LAST 11 YEAR AVERAGE: 158cm

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post Aug 29 2017, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(travis3000 @ Aug 29 2017, 08:48 PM) *
Yes I was shocked too. Calgary has actually never had a year with over 50 days above 25C , at least not since 1995. That's as far back as care to look for now. Manual data collection takes time. Who knows how far I would have to go back. Who knows how much higher it will go, 57-60 wouldn't surprise me which would certainly be an all time 120+ year record.


Well I guess we can't feel too bad that they got a rare scorcher of a summer....we'll end up with average temps here and below normal rainfall....very nice summer indeed!

Not much big heat in the long range. Will feel like autumn next week!


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Winter 2016-2017

Dec 2016: 30cm
Jan 2017: 5cm
Feb 2017: 7cm
March 2017: 35cm!! Finally!

Days with snow on the ground: 25
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post Aug 31 2017, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE(travis3000 @ Aug 29 2017, 07:49 PM) *
That's depressing, Alliston has recorded 10 days over 30.0C so far this year, but given our yearly normal is 22 days, that's not that great. Barrie's average is 10 days.

My moms pool has been at 30C all summer, but with the help of a solar blanket and a heater. Without that who knows how cold it would be.


Our solar blanket disintergrated last year...would have been useful this year for sure. Our neighbour closed his pool yesterday...very depressing to see the cover on. Even though we may not use ours again, I won't close until the leaves start falling...it looks nice being open.
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post Aug 31 2017, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(Lake effect @ Aug 29 2017, 06:37 PM) *
The warm and dry weather will arrive in December! Actually, I am hopeful for this winter, we are due something special.

Anyway, you think you've had it bad...Barrie has only had ONE day, way back on June 12th, when the mercury hit 30.0, all summer! Last year by this point we'd had 19 days 30 or above. It's actually been rather pleasant this year in my view, more like a New Zealand summer. Temps have been around 23-26 mark most of the summer. The rain has kept the lawns green. The pool is freezing though, never got above 24, usually see 27 for a few weeks.


You must be turning into a soft Canadian Lake laugh.gif , I remember going to the old unheated lido back in the UK as youth and any time the pool temp was reported around 21/22c on the window on the way in it was seen as lovely and warm, can remember much of the time it was around 18-19c.

I have enjoyed this summer here too, lots of sunshine and warm days in the 20-25c without too much humidity, likely go down as one of the best ones here for sure as been a pretty good 3 months (even June).
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QUOTE(newfiebrit @ Aug 31 2017, 08:34 AM) *
You must be turning into a soft Canadian Lake laugh.gif , I remember going to the old unheated lido back in the UK as youth and any time the pool temp was reported around 21/22c on the window on the way in it was seen as lovely and warm, can remember much of the time it was around 18-19c.

I have enjoyed this summer here too, lots of sunshine and warm days in the 20-25c without too much humidity, likely go down as one of the best ones here for sure as been a pretty good 3 months (even June).


If it was anything like my local lido there would have been sticky plasters floating around, teenagers snogging or smoking fags in the huts and fat bullies bombing anything in sight.

After last year, definitely been softened up, although as everyone says, the lack of humidity has been a real treat. Tonight looks like brass monkies though, may need the heating on 1st thing...is it an omen for the winter?
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post Aug 31 2017, 05:42 PM
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Chilly evening here tonight at only 17C, a stark contrast from last year at this time when the heat would not relent.

Meteorological Fall is in the air tonight!


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Thornhill, Ontario Snowfall (Buttonville Airport):

2016/2017: 142.6cm (Weak La Nina)
2015/2016: 96.4cm (Strong El Nino)
2014/2015: 118.7cm (Weak El Nino)
2013/2014: 184.8cm (Neutral)
2012/2013: 151.6cm (Neutral)
2011/2012: 99.9cm (Weak La Nina)
2010/2011: 168.1cm (Moderate La Nina)
2009/2010: 71.3cm (Moderate El Nino)
2008/2009: 253cm (Weak La Nina)
2007/2008: 251.6cm (Moderate La Nina)

Average Snowfall (Buttonville Airport): 142.6cm

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Does anyone foresee any impact from the remnants of Harvey?
In the Southern Ontario Region, that is.

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Looks like there's the chance of some rain mid long weekend. By the time it reaches Ontario it should be a fairly weak system but still could drop some rain. Latest GFS looks to have at least some moderate showers for the region.
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