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LoganTyler
post Mar 16 2009, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(MAG5035 @ Mar 16 2009, 04:44 PM) *
I mentioned in my previous post about the April 15-16th,2007 nor'easter. Since the thread topic doesn't specifically say that the storm of the 21st Century has to refer to solely a big snowmaker, I have to say this one has to be it IMO.

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Glad you brought this one up Mike. I have a few images saved as well from this one. GREAT Storm.

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post Mar 16 2009, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(Miller A @ Mar 16 2009, 05:26 PM) *
Who got hammered by V-Day 2007? NJ maxed out at 3-6 inches (link below) Ive heard about V-day have not found any lnks reviewing it. Anyone have any??
http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/2007/14-Feb-07.html


http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/2003/17-Feb-03.html


Upstate NY got hammered by Vday 2007 storm, I think Albany got like 20+inches.


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post Mar 16 2009, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(LoveNYCSnow @ Mar 16 2009, 06:20 PM) *
Upstate NY got hammered by Vday 2007 storm, I think Albany got like 20+inches.

Another great storm for Upstate NY. Widespread 24-46" across Central/Eastern NY, highest amounts of 36-46 were in the northern Catskills and southern Adirondacks. That storm produced the best mesoscale banding signatures I've ever seen in a winter storm over Central/Eastern NY. Snowfall rates of 4-6"/hour were common within the core of the bands. Just to save time, check out these 2 links from NWS Binghamton and Albany. Each did a Case Study, both of which are very good and included some great radar loops, information, maps and such.

NWS Binghamton Case Study for the February 13-14, 2007 Winter Storm

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post Mar 16 2009, 06:25 PM
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Sorry, Valentine's Day 2007 does not come close to 2003.

The storm of this century so far is the President's Day Storm of 2003 by a long shot. Just look at the accumulation maps. It's not even close. That's like comparing 2006 to 1996...it isn't a contest.

I'd say

1) President's Day II


by a long shot


2) Valentine's 2007

3) Blizzard of 2005/Blizzard of 2006


But if we count Hurricane's it is Katrina but that's a completely different type of storm.

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post Mar 16 2009, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(Sticksboi05 @ Mar 16 2009, 08:25 PM) *
Sorry, Valentine's Day 2007 does not come close to 2003.

The storm of this century so far is the President's Day Storm of 2003 by a long shot. Just look at the accumulation maps. It's not even close. That's like comparing 2006 to 1996...it isn't a contest.

I'd say

1) President's Day II
by a long shot
2) Valentine's 2007

3) Blizzard of 2006

Can't agree about 2007 at all. This is it's snow map:
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Much larger impact, blizzard out west, blizzard up north, strong winds everywhere else, extreme snowfall rates for prolonged periods. Also the pressure was lower(by 41 MB). It severely disrupted cities like Hamilton, Rochester, Syracuse, Burlington, Albany, Cleveland, Binghamton, etc. Additionally, higher maximum snowfall, and higher total damages ($14 million vs. $50 million).

However, I have to agree with the others that April 2007 wins. Hands down, IMO.

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QUOTE(Sticksboi05 @ Mar 16 2009, 08:25 PM) *
Sorry, Valentine's Day 2007 does not come close to 2003.

The storm of this century so far is the President's Day Storm of 2003 by a long shot. Just look at the accumulation maps. It's not even close. That's like comparing 2006 to 1996...it isn't a contest.

I'd say

1) President's Day II
by a long shot
2) Valentine's 2007

3) Blizzard of 2006


in nepa...v-day storm was huge........i never saw 12" of snow turn to 3" of sleet and a half inch of ice then back to 4-6" of snow before........then interstate system was paralyzed for days after.



#1 valentines 07 storm...see above

#2 presidents day storm 2003.....a ton of snow (2003)..22"

#3 christmas 2002........12"....not so windy but snow on x-mas day..nuff said

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post Mar 16 2009, 06:35 PM
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post Mar 16 2009, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(crankee yankee @ Mar 16 2009, 07:34 PM) *
in nepa...v-day storm was huge........i never saw 12" of snow turn to 3" of sleet and a half inch of ice then back to 4-6" of snow before........then interstate system was paralyzed for days after.
#1 valentines 07 storm...see above

#2 presidents day storm 2003.....a ton of snow (2003)..22"

#3 christmas 2002........12"....not so windy but snow on x-mas day..nuff said




The NESIS rankings don't lie. Pres. Day 2003 is ranked #3 behind the 2 worst east coast snowstorms of the 20th century. Valentine's Day is way down there.

While the system was much stronger in 2007, the impact wasn't as great as it missed the major metropolitan areas unlike 2003 which blasted them setting records in Baltimore and Boston.

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post Mar 16 2009, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(Sticksboi05 @ Mar 16 2009, 10:37 PM) *


The NESIS rankings don't lie. Pres. Day 2003 is ranked #3 behind the 2 worst east coast snowstorms of the 20th century. Valentine's Day is way down there.

While the system was much stronger in 2007, the impact wasn't as great as it missed the major metropolitan areas unlike 2003 which blasted them setting records in Baltimore and Boston.


Well as far as snowfall totals yea the 2007 storm didn't impact the metrapolitian areas but as I said in a prior post I have never seen that much ice in my lifetime so I wouldn't say they weren't affected in a significant way by it.


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post Mar 16 2009, 08:45 PM
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Well the 1 i remember the most is the VD 2007 storm when i lived just NE of albany.. I picked up 20 inches from that system and decided to walk a couple blocks to pick up pizza.. Not a great idea lol..


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post Mar 16 2009, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(LoganTyler @ Mar 16 2009, 07:34 PM) *
Another great storm for Upstate NY. Widespread 24-46" across Central/Eastern NY, highest amounts of 36-46 were in the northern Catskills and southern Adirondacks. That storm produced the best mesoscale banding signatures I've ever seen in a winter storm over Central/Eastern NY. Snowfall rates of 4-6"/hour were common within the core of the bands. Just to save time, check out these 2 links from NWS Binghamton and Albany. Each did a Case Study, both of which are very good and included some great radar loops, information, maps and such.

NWS Binghamton Case Study for the February 13-14, 2007 Winter Storm

NWS Albany Case Study for the February 13-14, 2007 Winter Storm

That was great storm logan, even tho i think the NWS in albany only had them getting like 14 inches or something like that.. I remember going outside and measuring atleast 20 inches if not a little more and i only lived 4 miles from albany lol Looking at the binghamton snowfall map it seemed that the area i live in now was 1 of the jackpot spots, widespread 30+ inches..

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post Mar 16 2009, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(Mike W IN herkimer @ Mar 16 2009, 10:51 PM) *
That was great storm logan, even tho i think the NWS in albany only had them getting like 14 inches or something like that.. I remember going outside and measuring atleast 20 inches if not a little more and i only lived 4 miles from albany lol Looking at the binghamton snowfall map it seemed that the area i live in now was 1 of the jackpot spots, widespread 30+ inches..


Still doesn't top February 2003.
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post Mar 16 2009, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(Sticksboi05 @ Mar 16 2009, 10:29 PM) *
Still doesn't top February 2003.

Im not sure what storm that is lol And it all depends on where u live, that storm might not of effected the NE like it did the MA region..


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post Mar 17 2009, 06:53 AM
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QUOTE(Mike W IN herkimer @ Mar 16 2009, 11:41 PM) *
Im not sure what storm that is lol And it all depends on where u live, that storm might not of effected the NE like it did the MA region..


The #3 NESIS storm. You know, the biggest snowstorm in the east since 1996.

President's Day II

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Why does it have to affect the major cities. Thats like saying a snowstorm that drops 20" on Toledo isn't as bad as one that drops 15" on Boston. It doesn't make much sense.

I think Hurricane Katrina wins hands down. The title says storm of the century and nothing compares, strength or impact wise. Just think what the $90 Billion on Katrina could have been spent on.


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post Jun 12 2009, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE(TJ Schulte @ Mar 17 2009, 10:24 AM) *
Why does it have to affect the major cities. Thats like saying a snowstorm that drops 20" on Toledo isn't as bad as one that drops 15" on Boston. It doesn't make much sense.

I think Hurricane Katrina wins hands down. The title says storm of the century and nothing compares, strength or impact wise. Just think what the $90 Billion on Katrina could have been spent on.


Bigger cities = more news coverage, more damage (usually), more people affected. It makes total sense. What causes more problems...24 inches in downtown DC or 28 inches in the middle of nowhere?

1928 Knickerbocker Storm collapsed the hotel roof in DC, killed alot of people.

2007 was a ridiculous storm but I still gotta put 2003 over it. But, I can certainly see how the argument for 2007 can be made as it was like a darn cyclone.

But neither compares to 96, we can agree on that. smile.gif

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Well, over here, it is either the presidents day storm or the big snowstorm of 2006.


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According to the NESIS scale the two worst snowstorms of the 21st century are:

1.) Presidents Day II 2003 Snowstorm NESIS 3rd all time
2.) Blizzard of 2005 NESIS 7th all time

Worst 21st Century storm:

1.) Hurricane Katrina 2005
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