December 2010 Discussion, Temps precip patterns Options

[gulfofslides]

Wow that looks awful... I'm not convinced about this wintry December that many have been calling for... There's just too many conflicting forecasts/models at this point. If I had to take a guess, I'd say the NYC metro area only sees one few-inch snowstorm for the entire month.

JB is calling for a cold and stormy Dec for the EC
http://www.accuweather.com/video.asp

[windman]

JB is calling for a cold and stormy Dec for the EC
http://www.accuweather.com/video.asp

Yeah, but he tends to overhype things. We may get storms, but I see it being more rain than anything for coastal areas. The models seem to be showing a lot of inland storms. And lately the trend has been for storms that look strong in the long range to get weaker as we near the event... Classic La Nina syndrome.

[NYCSuburbs]

The teleconnections at this time aren't too promising, showing the NAO heading towards neutral/positive with the PNA going negative again:

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[Foothills Snowma...]

The teleconnections at this time aren't too promising, showing the NAO heading towards neutral/positive with the PNA going negative again:

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How often does that report come out ?Also are there other sourse's that produce the same chart.?Thanks.I'm starting to wonder if Dec is going to be like Nov for us .Then maybe Jan could be our promising month for cold and snow.I've seen that happen before.The winter of 99/00 started out alot like this but then in Jan on Martin Luther King birthday celebration the weather changed.We were supposed to get maybe 3 or 4 in of snow but hat was it .When we woke up tues morning we had 8 to 10 in..We also had 4 more storms,and it got real cold, winthin 2 weeks and then winter was over for the most part but those 2 weeks were great.

[NYCSuburbs]

After the 5-6th Storm theres a cold stretch but then after that according to the GFS 12z run shows very mild air for pretty much all of the USA.

The GFS is having some serious difficulties handling the Dec 5-6 storm, which doesn't even exist on the GFS, so until the GFS will figure out that storm, I won't bother to seriously consider what it shows beyond Dec 5-6.

[Fire/Rescue]

By listning to Joe Bastardi folks living in the Eastern 3rd of the Country should be preparing for a very COLD and potentially SNOWY December, with the likely hood of aprox. 50% of the nation expeirencing a "White Christams" and I for one am sooooo hoping for this to happen

For those who haven't had the oppertunity to take a look at Henry Margusity's video today he speaks of the over all weather patern up to around the 15th of December, and his video unfortunalty does not include much in the way of SNOW for us folk living over here in the Mid Atlantic and North/East. The computer models for which he was speaking of this morning showed an over all COLD pattern for the Eastern 3rd of the country, however they just didnt display any storms to interact with the cold

HM did go out on a limb and say "He felt there would indeed be a BIG DADDY Snow Storm in the East prior to Christmas tho" so I guess only time will tell

[Removed_Member_Snowrider_*]

By listning to Joe Bastardi folks living in the Eastern 3rd of the Country should be preparing for a very COLD and potentially SNOWY December, with the likely hood of aprox. 50% of the nation expeirencing a "White Christams" and I for one am sooooo hoping for this to happen

For those who haven't had the oppertunity to take a look at Henry Margusity's video today he speaks of the over all weather patern up to around the 15th of December, and his video unfortunalty does not include much in the way of SNOW for us folk living over here in the Mid Atlantic and North/East. The computer models for which he was speaking of this morning showed an over all COLD pattern for the Eastern 3rd of the country, however they just didnt display any storms to interact with the cold

HM did go out on a limb and say "He felt there would indeed be a BIG DADDY Snow Storm in the East prior to Christmas tho" so I guess only time will tell

HM will say something completely different tomorrow my friend. The guy flip flops like crazy. Don't take anything he says seriously-even if it sounds like what you want to hear! If the models tonight flip back to a more stormy solution for next week than showing now-his video tomorrow will go right back to that. I don't put much stock in him anymore. You and I could look at the models in the morning and just say what it shows just like he does.


Snowrider.

[NYCSuburbs]

With what the models are showing now, it looks like there could be much more cold than snow for the first week of December in the Mid Atlantic...

If we don't get much snow potential, at least the bright side is that we could finally be breaking the seemingly endless pattern of above average monthly temp departures if the cold pattern stays through most of December.

This post has been edited by NYCSuburbs: Nov 30 2010, 03:17 PM

[fisherboy]

Its only the first week of december plenty of time for it to snow during the month.

[telejunkie]

With what the models are showing now, it looks like there could be much more cold than snow for the first week of December in the Mid Atlantic...

If we don't get much snow potential, at least the bright side is that we could finally be breaking the seemingly endless pattern of above average monthly temp departures if the cold pattern stays through most of December.

Early December is looking pretty darn cold and there are still some good possibilities for a moderate storm to bust through the block or wrap in for my region, but at this point wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in the second half of the month or at least a warm up sometime mid-month. We'll see how the Bering sea & Greenland blocks plays out as well as SE ridge. Keeping my fingers crossed the cold can sustain.

This post has been edited by telejunkie: Nov 30 2010, 05:14 PM

[Fire/Rescue]

With what the models are showing now, it looks like there could be much more cold than snow for the first week of December in the Mid Atlantic...

If we don't get much snow potential, at least the bright side is that we could finally be breaking the seemingly endless pattern of above average monthly temp departures if the cold pattern stays through most of December.

very true, if we cant cash in on any significant SNOW...then atleast we should have the COLD!

[Fire/Rescue]

Early December is looking pretty darn cold and there are still some good possibilities for a moderate storm to bust through the block or wrap in for my region, but at this point wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in the second half of the month or at least a warm up sometime mid-month. We'll see how the Bering sea & Greenland blocks plays out as well as SE ridge. Keeping my fingers crossed the cold can sustain.

You and me BOTH!

[Gnutella]

Im thinking a Zonal Flow banaza in the first part of December

Oops.

[Gnutella]

I don't want a 70-degree Christmas in northern Georgia this year.

[SnowMan11]

Man the 0z Euro is frigid in the east. A lot of places don't touch freezing on Thursday ( NYC, etc ). Really cold weather on the way.

[mikeyj1220]

Just looked at my 15 day forecast on AccuWeather and the highest temp is 35 degrees and only 3 days without snow!! I know its not totally accurate at all but it makes me

[mikeyj1220]

Henry broke the BIG DADDY hat out!! His video today says mid month we could possibly have some snow storms!!

[SnowMan11]

12z Euro is frigid. 850 temps of -12 - -16 over the big cites on Friday. Highs below freezing on that day.


The vortex comes into the northeast again in the long range. Really arctic air next week into next weekend.

[telejunkie]

Henry broke the BIG DADDY hat out!! His video today says mid month we could possibly have some snow storms!!

Oh no he dinit!
Hopefully get to listen to his video tonight...making a call like that almost 2 weeks in advance is a little ballzy in my play book(I'm sure plenty on here would agree)...but that's the Margusity-man for you. Seems like it's gonna snow somewhere, whether your backyard or mine, whether jackpot is 4-8" or 18-24"... still a lot of ironing to do.

[Niyologist]

The cold looks like it'll dominate most of the month. The only chances that we have for this month for snow are the 11th-13th and the 16th-18th. After that it'll be frigid, but gradually warming up.