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> Summer 2010 vs Summer 2011, which was worse
Summer 2010 vs Summer 2011
which summer was worse
Summer 2010 [ 17 ] ** [48.57%]
Summer 2011 [ 18 ] ** [51.43%]
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Hertz
post Oct 19 2011, 11:34 PM
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Well being mid-October I think it's time for final judgement.

I'm going to focus mainly the eastern third of the US and the focus will be on average temperatures, but due to large differences, I am going to break this eastern third into a northern, middle, and southern third. The northern third is from Michigan and New York through New England. The middle third is from Inidiana, Kentucky, and probably at least the northern half of Tennessee on east from there. The southern third is from southern Tennessee, and points east and/or south of that.

For the northern third, temperatures were fairly close to 2010 in June. In many cases that's not too far from seasonal though, because the ridge didn't come quite that far north in June 2010. In July, temperatures were above last year in the western half of this region (and were needless to say above normal by a very impressive amount), while the eastern half was near or slightly cooler in temperatures - cooler mostly confined to New England although it was still warmer than normal. In August, temperatures were cooler in Michigan this year compared to last, but relatively comparable east of Lake Erie. And I thought I'd throw September in, which was close in averages over southern lower Michigan, but warmer or at least close to par this year than 2010 for the rest of the region. The only exception would be some far coastal spots like Boston and NYC where it was just a little cooler. Overall I'd say it was about the same for both summers across this section.

For the central third, June was cooler this year than in 2010, but it was still warmer than normal especially in the eastern parts. The worst heat was actually the first part of the month for all of this area, however. July, on the other hand, was a torture pill, as it was even hotter than 2010 for a vast majority of locations and this includes some major cities like Washington, Baltimore, and (I think) Philly smashing hottest July records in addition to hottest mont ever records. August, on the other hand, reverted back to cooler this year in the vast majority of the region, ans was a relief compared to the searing July. Temperatures were still warmer than average in most places, but a few spots actually came out with near average temperatures, the only cases other than parts of the northern third (see above) in June in the meteorological summer months of temperatures not being above normal to at least some extent. September was cooler in 2011 essentially region wide however, in a big contrast to the northern third. Some of the western areas were actually notably cooler than normal, while the eastern areas were warmer than normal but mostly by moderate margions. In particular it was mainly the average hights that were much cooler. Overall I'd say this region was worse last year than it was this year, but taken alone, July was the worst of all the months from both years in many areas.

The southern third certainly had a pretty hot summer through and through. June was even hotter than 2010 except across parts of the far northern extent of this region where it was close. July was about a wash - a little hotter in some parts and a little cooler in others - but averaging quite close, both hot months, although the heat wasn't record breaking like it was in parts of the central portion - the record setting heat was back to the west a little instead. August was hotter this year than in 2010 most of the southern and eastern sections of this area, while it was a little cooler in the most northern and western reaches. September, on the other hand, was cooler region wide, and had negative departures over much of the western half of this area. Overall I'd say the meteorological summer months were actually just as bad if not even a little worse this year than in 2010, although the faster moderation in September needs specific attention.

For the entire east, there's too many differences for me to break it down by month; that's why I split into three sections to begin with. But I would say overall that this summer was not quite as hot as 2010 for the eastern third of the US. However, it was still a hotter than normal summer and probably not far off from 2010 overall with the exception of much faster cooling over some parts in Septmeber.

For the US as a whole, it was actually hotter this year than last - due to the horrific Texas/Oklahoma ridge which also extended into other states especially in July. So my views above are for the eastern third, as I said this post will be focused on. Considering this thread seems mainly focused in the east, I'm going to say 2010 was worse, but not by a wide margin, and in fact, if there was a "very close" option I would have probably considered picking it. But being forced to decide one way or another, I think 2010 has a slight edge over this year (i.e. it was slightly worse) if the entire region is covered.


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Severe thunderstorm watches: 6/12-6/13 (night), 6/25, 7/10, 7/23, 10/31-11/1 (night)
Tornado watches: 11/17
Tornado warnings: 6/12, 7/10
Slight Risk days: 4/10, 5/21, 5/22, 5/28, 6/1, 6/12, 6/24, 6/25, 6/26, 7/10, 7/19, 7/23, 8/7, 8/27, 9/11, 9/20, 10/6, 10/31
Moderate Risk days: 11/17
High Risk days:
Strongest thunderstorm to date (at CLE airport): 57 mph on 6/25 & 11/17 (thunderless convection on 11/17)
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NYCSuburbs
post Oct 20 2011, 08:01 PM
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For the NYC area:

Heat - 2010, no second thoughts. 50 days of 90+ degrees easily awards the summer of 2010 first place.

Rain - considering that last summer was a drought, the answer is automatically 2011.

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CentralIllinois
post Oct 22 2011, 01:08 PM
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summer 2011 by far here in IL


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Hertz
post Nov 14 2011, 12:22 AM
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For June through Ausut it was definitely worse for the nation as a whole due to the "deaht ridge".

However for many areas in the east, except parts of the Southeast, and particularly the eastern Midwest/Mid-Atlantic, 2010 was worse despite both years being hot summers and also in spite of this year's fiery hot July.

September and October also saw more warmth last year versus this from roughly an IL/IN/OH/PA/NJ line southward. Also unlike the actual summer months this includes the entire SE as well.

OTOH the expanse of the brutal July heatwave may guide many to saying this year was worse, regardless of other statistics. The only place it wasn't as particularl asy strong was in the Southeast and much of that region had a hotter June/August versus last year.

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Severe thunderstorm watches: 6/12-6/13 (night), 6/25, 7/10, 7/23, 10/31-11/1 (night)
Tornado watches: 11/17
Tornado warnings: 6/12, 7/10
Slight Risk days: 4/10, 5/21, 5/22, 5/28, 6/1, 6/12, 6/24, 6/25, 6/26, 7/10, 7/19, 7/23, 8/7, 8/27, 9/11, 9/20, 10/6, 10/31
Moderate Risk days: 11/17
High Risk days:
Strongest thunderstorm to date (at CLE airport): 57 mph on 6/25 & 11/17 (thunderless convection on 11/17)
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post Dec 6 2011, 02:21 AM
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In Pittsburgh, the summer of 2011 was slightly hotter than the summer of 2010.


Summer 2010

90-degree days: 16
7/05, 7/06, 7/07, 7/08, 7/23, 7/24, 7/28, 8/10, 8/11, 8/14, 8/29, 8/30, 8/31, 9/01, 9/02, 9/07

95-degree days: 0
N/A

Hottest temperature: 93
7/06, 7/07, 7/23, 7/24, 8/10, 8/11, 9/02


Summer 2011

90-degree days: 18
5/30, 5/31, 6/08, 6/09, 7/06, 7/11, 7/20, 7/21, 7/22, 7/23, 7/28, 7/29, 7/31, 8/01, 8/02, 8/05, 9/02, 9/03

95-degree days: 2
7/22, 9/03

Hottest temperature: 96
7/22

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