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> Winters of the 1980's.
Chambana
post Aug 28 2011, 07:28 PM
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I have done alot of reading on winters and summers in the 1980s, and have noticed quite a few similarities of the last few here in the US. Many people compared the winter of 2010-2011 to the latter part of the 1980s some breaking records from that time. This summer has been absolutely bone dry here in east central Illinois, some local farmers are saying this almost as worse than the summer of '88.

Then there is the heatwave of the summer of 1980, which again featured extremely hot/ humid air, and major drought conditions! Again eerily similar! My father actually told me stories about the winter of 1981-1982, he worked for a tow trucking company, and clearly remembers a day when the wind chill was what he recalls -50. He claimed semis were frozen on the side of the road, because diesel would freeze and the trucks would lock up.

What I thought was really interesting was, he Said the following winter of 82-83 was exceptionally mild and remembers not much snow and seasonably warm!

So what do you guys think? Midwest seen an extremely harsh winter 2010-2011. Could 2011-2012 be the no show winter? Something to think about laugh.gif


Also, didn't know where to post this, it's historical so I stuck it here
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post Aug 28 2011, 11:46 PM
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Here in Southern California, the 1980s featured a few different but interesting winters. The 1980s and 90s were the two warmest decades on record here, before plunging in 1999. This was due to two main reasons: High Solar Maximum activity, and a persistently warm PDO phase. 1983 remains as Los Angeles's warmest year on record, but also their wettest. The winter of 1982-1983 was an El Nino winter, in which the El Nino phenomenon combined with a warm PDO phase helped gives us one of our wettest winters in recorded history, with about 32" of rainfall. Between 1986 and 1991, Southern California experienced a long drought of rainy seasons that all brought well below-average rainfall each winter. Then the El Nino's returned beginning in 1991-1992, and consistently gave us very wet rainy seasons through the "Super El Nino" in 1997-1998, which brought an abundance of torrential Pacific storms with constant heavy rainfall, leading to flash floods everywhere.

2010-2011 was unique, because this was a La Nina winter. La Nina winters almost always give us below-average rainfall & drought, never a surplus of rainfall. But not this time. 2010-2011, which gave L.A. over 20" of rainfall, was Los Angeles' wettest La Nina rainy season since 1892-1893 (26.28") and before that, 1889-1890 (34.84") - both La Nina winters. It's extremely rare, but it does happen every few decades or so. Our average rainfall for a rainy season is around 15". Those rain totals are more typical of what El Nino brings us. Then again, El Nino's in the past decade have been quirky - in 2002-2003 and also 2009-2010, those El Nino's both gave us only average winters, when they were expected to shatter records. And in 2006-2007, that El Nino took a hard left and gave Southern California their driest winter in all recorded history - the complete opposite of a typical El Nino.


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post Aug 29 2011, 02:18 PM
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Wow, thanks for that write up! Sounds like 82-83 was a mild year for the entire country! How do you think this winter is shaping up? Many are forecasting weak to moderate La Nina, with above average temperatures in the fall, and then old man winter slams his foot down in a hurry! Kind of a similar setup to last year if you ask me.

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