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Mar 9 2012, 07:27 PM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,117 Joined: 18-December 10 From: Hazleton, PA Member No.: 24,736 |
I know what you are thinking.... WHO IS THIS CRAZY WEENIE MAKING A THREAD 300+ HOURS OUT!?!
I know it's the long range... but a good chance that SOMETHING (Rain/Snow) will be happening in this time frame so... Lets do it! Late season snow storm possible? or just GFS jokes? It's only March 24th... not TOO late for a POSSIBILITY for a storm... maybe it will be one of those seasons... Early Snow, No Snow, Late Snow... We'll see!! GFS 18z 360: ![]() 372: ![]() 384: ![]() - Weather weenie Blizz making his first thread about the GFS long range forecast... smh. This post has been edited by Blizz: Mar 9 2012, 07:35 PM -------------------- Conyngham Winters
Average : 47'' 11-12: 21.1'' -25.9'' 12-13: 40.0" -7.0'' 13-14: 0.0" - Hunter ![]() |
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Mar 9 2012, 08:15 PM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 4,456 Joined: 20-February 11 From: Beavercreek, OH Member No.: 25,413 |
^^ hoping for a miracle here lol xD
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Mar 9 2012, 08:35 PM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 29,274 Joined: 29-August 08 Member No.: 15,491 |
From my first post in the Mar 12-? warm spell thread:
QUOTE How ironic would it be if all we see is warm, warm, warm, and then suddenly winter decides to make one last comeback around the end of March? Not expecting it to happen, but for a "winter" like this a tease before and after the season would fit in place The MJO actually does have some support of at least less warmth and perhaps some more cold after this time frame (that says NOTHING about snow), and while the teleconnections aren't flipping towards favorable status, they are trending towards neutral in a favorable sense (-PNA trending less negative but not positive, +EPO trending towards neutral but not negative). The 18z GFS is odd looking though as it shows more blocking, something that we haven't had for almost the entire winter, so with the same pattern I would be surprised if more blocking does develop by this time frame. While this storm shouldn't be anything like the 18z GFS, it would not surprise me if at the end of the month into early April, perhaps winter, at least in terms of a colder rain and maybe a little bit of snow in parts of the Northeast, could make one last brief comeback. -------------------- Visit my weather website for the NYC area
Past winter totals for Albany (Avg ~60"): 11-12: 23.3", 12-13: 51.4" Past winter totals for NE NJ (Avg ~30"): 06-07: 14.7", 07-08: 17.0", 08-09: 34.5", 09-10: 58.7", 10-11: 68.5", 11-12 disaster: 12.5 inches 12-13: 36.6" |
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Mar 9 2012, 09:42 PM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,915 Joined: 19-August 09 From: nova scotia cape breton Member No.: 18,972 |
Pretty good run for nova scotia only time can tell
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Mar 9 2012, 10:54 PM
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Rank: Tornado ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 236 Joined: 24-December 10 Member No.: 24,863 |
Would be fantastic for my March 30-April 3 trip to Sugarloaf, ME
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Mar 10 2012, 06:34 PM
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![]() Rank: Tornado ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 261 Joined: 14-August 08 From: greentown, pa Member No.: 15,365 |
If it did try to snow ground tempertures might be to warm to stick, but i would never rule anything out the way this winter has gone
This post has been edited by fisherboy: Mar 10 2012, 06:35 PM -------------------- Snowplowing events- 1
Ice control events 1 Total snowfall 2011-12 35.5 Snowfighters are not miracle works. We are dedicated, hardworking human beings who pit their will against the forces of nature. |
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Mar 10 2012, 08:24 PM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 4,478 Joined: 7-December 10 From: Chicago Member No.: 24,567 |
-------------------- My Blog: http://theweathercentre.blogspot.com
2013 Severe Weather Season Tornado Watches: 0 Tornado Warnings: 0 Severe Thunderstorm Watches: 2 Severe Thunderstorm Warnings: 4 Slight Risk Days: 4 Moderate Risk Days: 0 High Risk Days: 0 Annual Snowfall 2012-2013: 37.5'' QUOTE When looking at the models: Trends, trends, trends! |
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Mar 11 2012, 02:14 PM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 6,417 Joined: 4-January 10 From: 20 Miles "North East" of Baltimore Member No.: 20,753 |
I know what you are thinking.... WHO IS THIS CRAZY WEENIE MAKING A THREAD 300+ HOURS OUT!?! I know it's the long range... but a good chance that SOMETHING (Rain/Snow) will be happening in this time frame so... Lets do it! Late season snow storm possible? or just GFS jokes? It's only March 24th... not TOO late for a POSSIBILITY for a storm... maybe it will be one of those seasons... Early Snow, No Snow, Late Snow... We'll see!! GFS 18z 360: ![]() 372: ![]() 384: ![]() - Weather weenie Blizz making his first thread about the GFS long range forecast... smh. Wow...just wow |
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Mar 11 2012, 06:08 PM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,915 Joined: 19-August 09 From: nova scotia cape breton Member No.: 18,972 |
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Mar 16 2012, 01:32 PM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 8,413 Joined: 10-August 09 From: SW Coastal CT (10 miles from beach) Member No.: 18,864 |
-------------------- Snow Totals Per Season:
2007-08: 21" 2008-09: 41" 2009-10: 39.5" 2010-11: 71.5" 2011-12: 14" 2012-13: 46.5" Average(since 1950) = 27.75" |
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Mar 16 2012, 02:23 PM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,136 Joined: 20-May 10 Member No.: 22,816 |
Looks interesting. I think you would agree, we should not close the book on winter just yet, until early April. If the GFS is correct, that would probably just be some wet snow for Long Island. |
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Mar 16 2012, 03:42 PM
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Rank: Tornado ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 50 Joined: 12-February 12 From: Farmingdale, NY Member No.: 26,423 |
That just made my day. -------------------- Severe Weather Nut
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Mar 16 2012, 04:09 PM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 29,274 Joined: 29-August 08 Member No.: 15,491 |
Looks interesting. I think you would agree, we should not close the book on winter just yet, until early April. If the GFS is correct, that would probably just be some wet snow for Long Island. It is definitely possible to close the book on snow... it could still be colder, that has not been ruled out for early April, but any support that is there for a colder pattern also signals it will not be strong and long lasting. The GFS and ECM have been going endlessly back and forth with this one, they're useless this far out. That just made my day. I didn't even bother to look at it twice - seeing the rest of this year's hour 192-384 fantasy snowstorms dissapear into nothing... Waiting until next winter to see snow holds much more promise than hoping for this winter to squeeze out something. If the 0.001% probability of snow during this pattern verifies, we can consider ourselves to be very (x10,000 times) lucky. -------------------- Visit my weather website for the NYC area
Past winter totals for Albany (Avg ~60"): 11-12: 23.3", 12-13: 51.4" Past winter totals for NE NJ (Avg ~30"): 06-07: 14.7", 07-08: 17.0", 08-09: 34.5", 09-10: 58.7", 10-11: 68.5", 11-12 disaster: 12.5 inches 12-13: 36.6" |
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Mar 16 2012, 05:01 PM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,136 Joined: 20-May 10 Member No.: 22,816 |
It is definitely possible to close the book on snow... it could still be colder, that has not been ruled out for early April, but any support that is there for a colder pattern also signals it will not be strong and long lasting. The GFS and ECM have been going endlessly back and forth with this one, they're useless this far out. I didn't even bother to look at it twice - seeing the rest of this year's hour 192-384 fantasy snowstorms dissapear into nothing... Waiting until next winter to see snow holds much more promise than hoping for this winter to squeeze out something. If the 0.001% probability of snow during this pattern verifies, we can consider ourselves to be very (x10,000 times) lucky. I was looking at the GFS. A backdoor cold front could move down from eastern canada next weekend and stall along the MA area with cold high pressure in eastern canada then low pressure in the midwest could move east to off the MA coast in the 26th-27th timeframe possibly giving the NYC area some wet snow, winters last hurrah before spring really sets in with nice weather. |
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Mar 16 2012, 05:06 PM
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Rank: Tornado ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 50 Joined: 12-February 12 From: Farmingdale, NY Member No.: 26,423 |
I didn't even bother to look at it twice - seeing the rest of this year's hour 192-384 fantasy snowstorms dissapear into nothing... Waiting until next winter to see snow holds much more promise than hoping for this winter to squeeze out something. If the 0.001% probability of snow during this pattern verifies, we can consider ourselves to be very (x10,000 times) lucky. I was laughing at the fact that even though it is almost late March, the models are still screwing with us. Pretty funny IMO. -------------------- Severe Weather Nut
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Mar 16 2012, 05:46 PM
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Rank: Tornado ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 81 Joined: 29-January 10 From: Central NJ Member No.: 21,176 |
I was laughing at the fact that even though it is almost late March, the models are still screwing with us. Pretty funny IMO. They do every year. And sometimes they continue well into April. Even in the megatorch spring of 2010, one GFS run like 300+ hours out showed a snow/mix event for the third week of April down to like Connecticut, haha. This post has been edited by thedarkestclouds: Mar 16 2012, 05:47 PM |
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Mar 17 2012, 09:26 AM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 8,413 Joined: 10-August 09 From: SW Coastal CT (10 miles from beach) Member No.: 18,864 |
So the Euro decides to throw a 980mb bomb off Long Island. Here's a general idea of how the snow totals looked on that run. -------------------- Snow Totals Per Season:
2007-08: 21" 2008-09: 41" 2009-10: 39.5" 2010-11: 71.5" 2011-12: 14" 2012-13: 46.5" Average(since 1950) = 27.75" |
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Mar 17 2012, 09:27 AM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 29,274 Joined: 29-August 08 Member No.: 15,491 |
0z ECMWF =
If this comes even close to verifying I'm holding the ECM accountable for verification of the first snow potential of the winter of 2012-13 -------------------- Visit my weather website for the NYC area
Past winter totals for Albany (Avg ~60"): 11-12: 23.3", 12-13: 51.4" Past winter totals for NE NJ (Avg ~30"): 06-07: 14.7", 07-08: 17.0", 08-09: 34.5", 09-10: 58.7", 10-11: 68.5", 11-12 disaster: 12.5 inches 12-13: 36.6" |
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Mar 17 2012, 09:35 AM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 29,274 Joined: 29-August 08 Member No.: 15,491 |
So the Euro decides to throw a 980mb bomb off Long Island. Here's a general idea of how the snow totals looked on that run. Beat me to it by less than a minute Remember the time that the ECM showed a fantasy blizzard and DT made that crazy snow map? The end result (rain) may repeat itself once again... -------------------- Visit my weather website for the NYC area
Past winter totals for Albany (Avg ~60"): 11-12: 23.3", 12-13: 51.4" Past winter totals for NE NJ (Avg ~30"): 06-07: 14.7", 07-08: 17.0", 08-09: 34.5", 09-10: 58.7", 10-11: 68.5", 11-12 disaster: 12.5 inches 12-13: 36.6" |
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Mar 17 2012, 09:37 AM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 20,617 Joined: 27-February 08 From: Brooklyn,NY Member No.: 14,017 |
The Euro monthlies show cold weather by the 1st week of April. This would be fitting for the winter if this happens. I am going to keep an eye on this.
-------------------- Anthony
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