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> Mar. 24th - Mar. 26th West (California) Spring Storm, First storm of the Spring to bring cooler temperatures, some rain.
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post Mar 19 2012, 10:19 AM
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Several days of milder weather is in store for Southern California starting Tuesday and ending Friday, with inland areas possibly reach near 80F.

Another chance of rain begins next weekend with cooler weather returning for a bit....however, timing & intensity are uncertain.

EDIT 03/21/12: Title changed from Brief Warm Spell to Spring Storm.

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post Mar 19 2012, 10:57 AM
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I would love to see more rain come back, but for sure, we're done with the extremely cold storms.
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post Mar 19 2012, 12:47 PM
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I think this upcoming system next weekend has plenty or potential. Also there is a chance it cuts off, which throws plenty of uncertainty into the mix. The GFS gives LA about 1.5"


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post Mar 19 2012, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(Beck @ Mar 19 2012, 08:19 AM) *
Several days of milder weather is in store for Southern California starting Tuesday and ending Friday, with inland areas possibility reach near 80F.

Another chance of rain begins next weekend with cooler weather returning for a bit....however, it doesn't look significant.



QUOTE(FrostFuzz @ Mar 19 2012, 10:47 AM) *
I think this upcoming system next weekend has plenty or potential. Also there is a chance it cuts off, which throws plenty of uncertainty into the mix. The GFS gives LA about 1.5"


The GFS has the wettest storm of the season so far for next weekend, which would be amazing, but the NWS offices seem to have so little confidence in its performance that they're both leaning towards the ECMWF

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post Mar 19 2012, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(Artisane @ Mar 19 2012, 08:57 AM) *
I would love to see more rain come back, but for sure, we're done with the extremely cold storms.



QUOTE(FrostFuzz @ Mar 19 2012, 10:47 AM) *
I think this upcoming system next weekend has plenty or potential. Also there is a chance it cuts off, which throws plenty of uncertainty into the mix. The GFS gives LA about 1.5"



QUOTE(alxz310 @ Mar 19 2012, 10:53 AM) *
The GFS has the wettest storm of the season so far for next weekend, which would be amazing, but the NWS offices seem to have so little confidence in its performance that they're both leaning towards the ECMWF

On the contrary - personally, I just want this rain season to be over already. For once, I'd like a nice strong ridge of high pressure to warm us up for a few weeks.

In the past two years, strong high pressure systems have been largely non-existent in Southern California. The last year to feature a decent amount of those was 2009. We've hardly had any of them ever since, as they've been primarily replaced with onshore flow & low pressure (hence why the past two Springs and Summers in SoCal were the coolest in quite some time).

The only two years in recent history that were almost completely dominated by High Pressure were 2000 and 2008 - the two warmest years in Temecula's recorded history (1999-present).

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post Mar 19 2012, 06:48 PM
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"the European waits 24 to 36 hours longer than that with rain not arriving until late Sunday/Sunday night and not reaching southern California until Sunday night or Monday. The European has been doing a far superior job than the GFS and I am going to ride that horse until I get bucked off."

Btw the 12Z ECMWF drops a fairly nice amount of rain over LA/VTU counties, not as much over SD.


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QUOTE(alxz310 @ Mar 19 2012, 03:48 PM) *
"the European waits 24 to 36 hours longer than that with rain not arriving until late Sunday/Sunday night and not reaching southern California until Sunday night or Monday. The European has been doing a far superior job than the GFS and I am going to ride that horse until I get bucked off."

Btw the 12Z ECMWF drops a fairly nice amount of rain over LA/VTU counties, not as much over SD.


Ken Clark shares your sentiments tongue.gif

I feel bad for the guy, He hasn't had much of anything to really write about, Atleast that relates to interesting storms.


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post Mar 19 2012, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(Beck @ Mar 19 2012, 11:21 AM) *
On the contrary - personally, I just want this rain season to be over already. For once, I'd like a nice strong ridge of high pressure to warm us up for a few weeks.

In the past two years, strong high pressure systems have been largely non-existent in Southern California. The last year to feature a decent amount of those was 2009. We've hardly had any of them ever since, as they've been primarily replaced with onshore flow & low pressure (hence why the past two Springs and Summers in SoCal were the coolest in quite some time).

The only two years in recent history that were almost completely dominated by High Pressure were 2000 and 2008 - the two warmest years in Temecula's recorded history (1999-present).


I agree with you, but only partially. I don't want an end to the rainy season, but want the warm weekends to return. The 70s/80s we kept having were PERFECT for outdoor activities... the highs in the 50s and low 60s that we've had as of late SUCK - don't really want to bike because it's way too cold at the beach; maybe ok for a hike. I really hope this summer isn't another one of those dominated by a marine layer and cool temps (especially relevant for us at the coast)

QUOTE(LALEO @ Mar 19 2012, 06:48 PM) *
Ken Clark shares your sentiments tongue.gif

I feel bad for the guy, He hasn't had much of anything to really write about, Atleast that relates to interesting storms.


Seriously though - he can always start speculating about next winter laugh.gif.

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post Mar 19 2012, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(Beck @ Mar 19 2012, 11:21 AM) *
On the contrary - personally, I just want this rain season to be over already. For once, I'd like a nice strong ridge of high pressure to warm us up for a few weeks.

In the past two years, strong high pressure systems have been largely non-existent in Southern California. The last year to feature a decent amount of those was 2009. We've hardly had any of them ever since, as they've been primarily replaced with onshore flow & low pressure (hence why the past two Springs and Summers in SoCal were the coolest in quite some time).

The only two years in recent history that were almost completely dominated by High Pressure were 2000 and 2008 - the two warmest years in Temecula's recorded history (1999-present).


You always seemed to prefer cool weather, so why do you want it to be warm now?

The extremely cold sea surface temperatures (around 54 F) are not going to warm up easily, so unless we get a very strong monsoonal high, which blocks all troughs and upwelling as was the case in July 2006, I'd assume a 3rd straight cool summer with little sunshine at the beaches.

Also, Spring begins tonight at 10:14pm PDT, but they did not mention that in the forecast discussion.


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San Diego Lindbergh: 70.0

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post Mar 20 2012, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(alxz310 @ Mar 19 2012, 07:52 PM) *
I agree with you, but only partially. I don't want an end to the rainy season, but want the warm weekends to return. The 70s/80s we kept having were PERFECT for outdoor activities... the highs in the 50s and low 60s that we've had as of late SUCK - don't really want to bike because it's way too cold at the beach; maybe ok for a hike. I really hope this summer isn't another one of those dominated by a marine layer and cool temps (especially relevant for us at the coast)
Seriously though - he can always start speculating about next winter laugh.gif.

I hope so too, it's been a while since we've had a hot summer (or even a near-average one). Summer '09 was pretty hot here, except for a mild first part of August.

QUOTE(Jet Developer @ Mar 19 2012, 08:21 PM) *
You always seemed to prefer cool weather, so why do you want it to be warm now?

The extremely cold sea surface temperatures (around 54 F) are not going to warm up easily, so unless we get a very strong monsoonal high, which blocks all troughs and upwelling as was the case in July 2006, I'd assume a 3rd straight cool summer with little sunshine at the beaches.

Also, Spring begins tonight at 10:14pm PDT, but they did not mention that in the forecast discussion.

I suppose I'm just getting tired of the primarily below average temperatures we've been having for two years now. I want a good warm pattern for a change.

Heh....I remember July 2006. That was a highly unusual month for most of California (as well as most of the United States) as we were experiencing humid heat for most of that month. We don't get humid heat in SoCal. But that month we did (also in June 2006) which helped give us very warm nighttime lows, which peaked near the end of July. I had never witnessed that kind of anamoly before, and I still haven't since then.

To this day, July 2006 still remains as the warmest month on record in Temecula, at an average temperature of 79.0F, a full five degrees above average. The average low for that month was 68.0F, seven degrees above average; the average high was 94.2F, just over four degrees above average.

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I don't like it but you're probably right Jet, we may have another cool summer this year. I guess we'll see.


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post Mar 20 2012, 12:03 AM
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I definitely prefer cool weather. I will take sub 70 and even sub 60 highs any day, every day. That being said I can imagine myself saying the exact opposite if I were to, say for example live in Seattle. For now though I will take any storm or below average high I can get.


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post Mar 20 2012, 12:11 AM
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I remember that in July 2006, the coastal waters warmed to 80 F for a few days, which is almost unheard of here. We were having marine layers in San Diego with overnight lows between 74 and 78!!! That's what caused all the humidity - not only the strong monsoon.

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I read that this year's spring equinox is the earliest since 1896!

Also, speaking of July 2006, our average low was 86.7F, the warmest in recent memory. Compare that to last year's 81.3F. Palm Springs Airport recorded an astonishing 120F on the 22nd of that month.

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QUOTE(vb3347 @ Mar 19 2012, 10:36 PM) *
I read that this year's spring equinox is the earliest since 1896!

Also, speaking of July 2006, our average low was 86.7F, the warmest in recent memory. Compare that to last year's 81.3F. Palm Springs Airport recorded an astonishing 120F on the 22nd of that month.

blink.gif ......dare I ask, what was Palm Springs' average high for that month?


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QUOTE(Beck @ Mar 19 2012, 10:50 PM) *
blink.gif ......dare I ask, what was Palm Springs' average high for that month?


Average high was a not that impressive 109.7F (historical average at PSP is 108F). The last few days were in the low 100s and brought the average down. The real story was the humidity and extremely high lows. We had 6 days with lows in the 90s, including a 95F low on the infamous 22nd.
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QUOTE(FrostFuzz @ Mar 19 2012, 10:03 PM) *
I definitely prefer cool weather. I will take sub 70 and even sub 60 highs any day, every day. That being said I can imagine myself saying the exact opposite if I were to, say for example live in Seattle. For now though I will take any storm or below average high I can get.

Sub 70's and sub 60 highs is my Summer weather. I'd love to have that in the Spring...
There was a song written for Seattle because of how miserable it is. http://www.komonews.com/weather/blogs/scott

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QUOTE(vb3347 @ Mar 19 2012, 10:59 PM) *
Average high was a not that impressive 109.7F (historical average at PSP is 108F). The last few days were in the low 100s and brought the average down. The real story was the humidity and extremely high lows. We had 6 days with lows in the 90s, including a 95F low on the infamous 22nd.

A low of 95F.....whew....that's insane.

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Storm totals: March 16th-19th, 2012


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The NWS has issued a frost advisory for much of the Inland Empire and San Diego County valleys from midnight tonight to 9AM Tuesday morning.

They also seem to lack confidence in next weekend's storm, as do I. It looks to yield some rain for SoCal, but not much.


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See, I dislike the heat and warm days/nights because I have to pay the electric bill. +$450 a month isn't uncommon in the summer, while winters are around $125. Also, it never gets below 80F in the house, even with the AC running during the summer.

I really loved it last year when cool temps lasted through July.
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post Mar 20 2012, 01:34 PM
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Looking very quiet across all of California today as high pressure builds. We're forecast to hit about 78F tomorrow in Temecula.


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