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Apr 12 2012, 01:58 PM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 869 Joined: 29-January 10 From: Arlington, VA Member No.: 21,194 |
All of the models are showing a nice warm-up for the East in the coming days though that is in question the farther north you go. With the dry soil temps should come in a few degrees higher than modeled barring cloudcover south of the Mason-Dixon line. North of the Mason-Dixon, questions are abundant but I would say that it could hit 80 on Sunday in NYC. In DC, it's very possible that the temps make a run at 90 if conditions are as ideal as they look to be.
Here is the SREF temp model that goes out to Sunday, where a number of the models push the warmth all the way to Maine. http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/SREF21T...3z/srefloop.htm This post has been edited by psu1313: Apr 12 2012, 02:02 PM |
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Apr 12 2012, 02:24 PM
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GFS has Monday as the warmest day.
Factor in a dry ground and 80s could be more widespread than shown here. -------------------- Snow Totals Per Season:
2007-08: 21" 2008-09: 41" 2009-10: 39.5" 2010-11: 71.5" 2011-12: 14" 2012-13: 46.5" Average(since 1950) = 27.75" |
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Apr 12 2012, 04:06 PM
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With the models having significantly overestimated the intensity of the low near Newfoundland, the cold front will fail to move through quickly on Monday, and with an unseasonably warm air mass, this has the look of a classic spring significant warm spell. The CMC shows a weak back door cold front on Tuesday for New England and possibly NYC/parts of NJ, although going with the rest of the models, Monday looks to torch, with widespread 85 degree readings to locally upper 80s from DC-Boston. Hopefully there is actually a quick end to this warmth, because such a scenario would bring a better chance of more rain.
-------------------- Visit my weather website for the NYC area
Past winter totals for Albany (Avg ~60"): 11-12: 23.3", 12-13: 51.4" Past winter totals for NE NJ (Avg ~30"): 06-07: 14.7", 07-08: 17.0", 08-09: 34.5", 09-10: 58.7", 10-11: 68.5", 11-12 disaster: 12.5 inches 12-13: 36.6" |
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Apr 12 2012, 05:08 PM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 11,698 Joined: 6-February 08 From: LANCASTER PA Member No.: 13,459 |
With the models having significantly overestimated the intensity of the low near Newfoundland, the cold front will fail to move through quickly on Monday, and with an unseasonably warm air mass, this has the look of a classic spring significant warm spell. The CMC shows a weak back door cold front on Tuesday for New England and possibly NYC/parts of NJ, although going with the rest of the models, Monday looks to torch, with widespread 85 degree readings to locally upper 80s from DC-Boston. Hopefully there is actually a quick end to this warmth, because such a scenario would bring a better chance of more rain. We need the rain. Because if the above average heat comes around frequently with little or no rain, we will end up in a bad dry scenario later this summer. Already to dry outside. -------------------- -James
Severe T-storm Watches: Severe Warnings:1 Tornado Watches: Tornado Warnings: # of 100+ degrees days: |
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Apr 12 2012, 08:38 PM
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We need the rain. Because if the above average heat comes around frequently with little or no rain, we will end up in a bad dry scenario later this summer. Already to dry outside. And the 18z GFS makes it even worse by also taking away both the mid and late week storms... the mid week cold front doesn't look too wet, and the Friday event may have been a bit exaggerated. At this time, the only decent rain event in the 7-day range outside of central/northern New England seems to be a moderate burst of rain (and thunderstorms perhaps?) on Saturday night for the northern Mid Atlantic and SNE, but it's still no heavy rain event. -------------------- Visit my weather website for the NYC area
Past winter totals for Albany (Avg ~60"): 11-12: 23.3", 12-13: 51.4" Past winter totals for NE NJ (Avg ~30"): 06-07: 14.7", 07-08: 17.0", 08-09: 34.5", 09-10: 58.7", 10-11: 68.5", 11-12 disaster: 12.5 inches 12-13: 36.6" |
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Apr 12 2012, 11:11 PM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 11,698 Joined: 6-February 08 From: LANCASTER PA Member No.: 13,459 |
Now it looks like Monday may be the *warmest* day of the period.
And the 18z GFS makes it even worse by also taking away both the mid and late week storms... the mid week cold front doesn't look too wet, and the Friday event may have been a bit exaggerated. At this time, the only decent rain event in the 7-day range outside of central/northern New England seems to be a moderate burst of rain (and thunderstorms perhaps?) on Saturday night for the northern Mid Atlantic and SNE, but it's still no heavy rain event. Yup very concerning...hopefully some areas could pick up a moderate burst of beneficial rainfall at some point in this time period. Wonder when the first severe weather day will occur across Mid-Atl/ NE. -------------------- -James
Severe T-storm Watches: Severe Warnings:1 Tornado Watches: Tornado Warnings: # of 100+ degrees days: |
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Apr 13 2012, 05:44 AM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 8,426 Joined: 10-August 09 From: SW Coastal CT (10 miles from beach) Member No.: 18,864 |
Some Daily Record Highs for April
Hartford, CT: 14th - 82 15th - 88 16th - 90 17th - 95 Worchester, MA: 14th - 75 15th -84 16th - 89 17th - 90 White Plains, NY: 14th - 78 15th - 83 16th - 88 17th - 92 Bridgeport, CT: 14th - 73 - 1949 15th - 81 - 1960 16th - 85 - 2002 17th - 89 - 2002 Central Park, NY: 14th - 85 - 1941 15th - 87 - 1941 16th - 92 - 2002 17th - 96 - 2002 Newark, NJ: 14th - 88 - 1941 15th - 88 - 1960 16th - 92 - 2002 17th - 97 - 2002 -------------------- Snow Totals Per Season:
2007-08: 21" 2008-09: 41" 2009-10: 39.5" 2010-11: 71.5" 2011-12: 14" 2012-13: 46.5" Average(since 1950) = 27.75" |
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Apr 13 2012, 05:52 AM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 7,846 Joined: 16-February 08 From: Mahopac, New York Member No.: 13,731 |
GFS has Monday as the warmest day. Factor in a dry ground and 80s could be more widespread than shown here. Upton has my town at exactly 80 degrees http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?s...23&map.y=99. That combined with sunshine and continued dry weather will make for a rough fire weather day. -------------------- Severe Weather Safety
Spring is soon to be upon us and here are some tips for severe weather season. Thunderstorm Safety Tips http://www.dhses.ny.gov/oem/safety-info/pu...hunderstorm.cfm Lightning Safety http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/ Tornado Safety http://www.ready.gov/tornadoes Snow Events 11/7-6.5 inches 12/24-12/25 1 inch 12/26-12/27 4.5 inches 12/29-2.5 inches 1/15-1/16-4 inches 1/28- 1 inch 2/8-2/9 Blizzard 12 inches 2/13- 1 inch 3/7-3/8- 8 inches 3/18-3/19 5 inches 12-13 45.5 09-10 43.5 inches ( Newly Updated from 39 inches) 10-11 60.5 inches 11-12 21 inches |
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Apr 13 2012, 07:56 AM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 29,279 Joined: 29-August 08 Member No.: 15,491 |
6z NAM now shows mid 80s on Monday... unlike the previous warm spell, this one is centered on the typical warm areas in the Mid Atlantic/SNE, not over northern New England. Warm 850mb temps + breezy SW winds + dry ground (as NorEaster07 mentioned) + model bias to underestimate warmth = areas of 90 degrees in DC-BOS corridor (or 89 degrees)...
-------------------- Visit my weather website for the NYC area
Past winter totals for Albany (Avg ~60"): 11-12: 23.3", 12-13: 51.4" Past winter totals for NE NJ (Avg ~30"): 06-07: 14.7", 07-08: 17.0", 08-09: 34.5", 09-10: 58.7", 10-11: 68.5", 11-12 disaster: 12.5 inches 12-13: 36.6" |
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Apr 13 2012, 08:04 AM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 4,825 Joined: 24-January 08 From: 39.96N, 74.2W Member No.: 12,978 |
Its not that unusual to have hot weather in April(remember a couple of years ago, temps in the 90s), the magnification here is the persist dry weather and no real chance at rain in the next 5 days......
-------------------- Fall/Winter 2012/13---------
First Snow: 11/7/12 - 7 inches Bunch of Clippers that produced a total of 3 inches... 2/8/13 - Blizzard backend snows - 6.5 inches +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ WINTER 2009/2010 Season 73.9 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINTER 2010/2011 Season total - 49 inches ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WINTER 2011/2012 Season Toal - Too little to mention |
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Apr 13 2012, 08:06 AM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 869 Joined: 29-January 10 From: Arlington, VA Member No.: 21,194 |
6z NAM now shows mid 80s on Monday... unlike the previous warm spell, this one is centered on the typical warm areas in the Mid Atlantic/SNE, not over northern New England. Warm 850mb temps + breezy SW winds + dry ground (as NorEaster07 mentioned) + model bias to underestimate warmth = areas of 90 degrees in DC-BOS corridor (or 89 degrees)... This. Also, Tuesday could be very warm as well but the models are hinting at more clouds with the front . I'm not sure what to go with for Tuesday just yet but i'd still expect above average temps even with the front coming closer. |
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Apr 13 2012, 09:08 AM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,904 Joined: 19-December 08 From: Mercerville, NJ Member No.: 16,588 |
As I said in other threads, the models seem to underdo the warmth and overdo the cold and rain. It's going to be a rough month regarding moisture.
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Apr 13 2012, 01:12 PM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 11,698 Joined: 6-February 08 From: LANCASTER PA Member No.: 13,459 |
Nice mild day outside.
Current temp is 60 degrees...gentle breeze. -------------------- -James
Severe T-storm Watches: Severe Warnings:1 Tornado Watches: Tornado Warnings: # of 100+ degrees days: |
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Apr 13 2012, 02:51 PM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 676 Joined: 4-May 08 From: Pawtucket, RI Member No.: 14,775 |
I use to be able to enjoy the nice weather outside, but then I took and arrow to the knee.
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Apr 14 2012, 08:37 AM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,201 Joined: 8-December 09 From: Manchester, VT (elev 800') Member No.: 20,089 |
Some Daily Record Highs for April Central Park, NY: 17th - 96 - 2002 Newark, NJ: 17th - 97 - 2002 -------------------- Winter '12-'13 Winter Storms of Significance (>4")
12/27 - 17" 12/29 - 4" 2/9 - 7" 3/8 - 6" 3/20 - 8" '09-'10 Snowfall: 76" '10-'11 Snowfall: 117" '11-'12 Snowfall: 44" '12-'13 Snowfall: 62" |
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Apr 14 2012, 09:55 AM
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Rank: Tornado ![]() ![]() Group: Founding Member Posts: 279 Joined: 3-June 07 From: orlando Member No.: 6,152 |
This'll be brief as the following week should be quite cool!
This post has been edited by WEATHERFREAK: Apr 14 2012, 10:04 AM -------------------- "WINDY HAS WINGS TO FLY."
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Apr 14 2012, 10:27 AM
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Rank: Tornado ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 81 Joined: 29-January 10 From: Central NJ Member No.: 21,176 |
Above to much above normal for most areas in the U.S. that've been in an endless blowtorch pattern, but the following winter featured almost non-stop below normal temperatures, especially in the northeast. The western half or so of the country baked that winter though. |
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Apr 14 2012, 10:39 AM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 8,426 Joined: 10-August 09 From: SW Coastal CT (10 miles from beach) Member No.: 18,864 |
Let me know what you find. Just a couple of quick looks, Top Left: April 15 to 30, 2002 temps Top Right: June to September 2002 Temps Bottom Left: May to July 2002 temps (Cold Spring) Bottom Right: June to September Precip -------------------- Snow Totals Per Season:
2007-08: 21" 2008-09: 41" 2009-10: 39.5" 2010-11: 71.5" 2011-12: 14" 2012-13: 46.5" Average(since 1950) = 27.75" |
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Apr 14 2012, 11:04 AM
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![]() Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 869 Joined: 29-January 10 From: Arlington, VA Member No.: 21,194 |
This'll be brief as the following week should be quite cool! I don't think anyone is thinking this is going to be a long lasting shot of warm temps BUT I don't see the cool temps either unless you mean being around normal. A lot of the models have backed off the large trough idea in the east and if it does come in then it looks to be progressive and should pull through in 2-3 days. Remember that for the most part, the models have been overdoing the cold/precip only to moderate the temperatures and lessen the precip as we get closer to the event. On top of this there isn't a lot of cold air in the system at this point. If you want some other materials to look at I come with a link and a picture! First the link, predicted 500 mb heights from the ESRL. Nothing screams cold here... http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/map/images/en...h_alltimes.html ....and predicted temps from the CPC..... |
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Apr 14 2012, 05:19 PM
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Rank: F5 Superstorm ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,276 Joined: 19-July 10 From: New Milford,NJ Member No.: 23,183 |
is there any precip to be coming any time soon, and not just a brief shower but a soaking?
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